Why Attack KJVO?

Why Attack KJVO?

Wow. I do not like watching
beat-downs. I saw a brother in Christ
explaining his trust of the King James Bible
as his only absolute authority, and people responded with
“Why should we trust him? He’s not a scholar.” Wait a minute. He trusts the Bible. You trust the scholars? And he’s the one
with the problem? That brought me to the question: What’s so bad about
trusting Just One Bible? Think about it. Hi, I’m David Daniels
from Chick Publications. Let me talk to the critics for a minute. People who trust
the King James Bible are getting along in life
and moving forward, trusting just one Bible. How about you? Do you have one measuring stick
to gauge your Christian growth? You see,
when you spend all your time comparing versions,
the one thing you’re not doing is focusing on growth
in obedience to Christ. It’s like messing around,
tuning your car engine all the time,
but never actually driving anywhere. So let me ask you: Is it
“God was manifest in the flesh,” or “he appeared in a body”
in 1 Timothy 3:16? Is it “For there are three
that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word,
and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one,”
or “for there are three that testify” in 1 John 5:7? Should we remove the story
of the woman caught in adultery, all 12 verses? John 7:53-8:11. Should we remove
the resurrection appearances of Christ,
in Mark 16:9-20? Should we remove
the confession of faith before baptism
in Acts 8:37? 37 “And Philip said,
If thou believest with all thine heart,
thou mayest. And he answered and said,
I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.” Should we remove
that the gospel is “of Christ” that Paul is not ashamed of,
in Romans 1:16? Does God promise to preserve
and keep His words forever in Psalm 12:6-7,
or did God promise to keep the Jewish people safe
from their enemies forever, as in these versions? There are huge differences
between each one of these. People who trust the King James
have already made their decision which they will trust,
what words they will accept, and what they will reject. And if they sit in your church,
they may check whatever the preacher or teacher says,
by that one holy Book. They’re gonna
treat their King James Bible like it’s … the Bible. What could be wrong with that? Wow. Some of these remarks
I’ve read from you, put you
in the seat of the scornful. Listen to these words: Psalm 1:1-2
“Blessed is the man that walketh not
in the counsel of the ungodly,
nor standeth in the way of sinners,
nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is
in the law of the Lord; and in his law
doth he meditate day and night.” How can you
meditate on the Lord’s law, if you cannot even settle
on what it is? If the scholars
cannot make up their minds, if they are scrambling after
every scrap of papyrus, to find some
new reading or doctrine to switch their Bible to,
how can we trust them? God tells us to “earnestly
contend for the faith which was once
delivered to the saints,” not look
under every rock and hill for a piece of papyrus
that God or an angel or a Gnostic hid there. No.
It was delivered. Once. End of topic. God keeps the truth
out in the open, not hidden for scholars. We have a
“revealed to the babes” faith, and a
“hidden from the wise” faith. Jesus said it well. Luke 10:21-24
“In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said,
I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,
that thou hast hid these things
from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them
unto babes: even so, Father;
for so it seemed good in thy sight. All things are delivered to me
of my Father: and no man knoweth
who the Son is, but the Father;
and who the Father is, but the Son,
and he to whom the Son will reveal him. And he turned him
unto his disciples, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes
which see the things that ye see: For I tell you,
that many prophets and kings have desired to see
those things which ye see, and have not seen them;
and to hear those things which ye hear,
and have not heard them.” Here’s the bottom line. We want to grow in Christ,
not stagnate in doubt. Argue if you want. Or put your trust in the 400+ year
tried, tested and proved King James Bible. What you choose is up to you. But we’re not waiting around for you. We’re moving on. God bless you,
and have a wonderful day.

54 Replies to “Why Attack KJVO?”

  1. Luke 10:21-24… Great reference David… (I'm a KJVO Saint!)
    21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father,
    Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise
    and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so
    it seemed good in thy sight.
    22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son
    is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.23 And he turned him unto his disciples, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see:
    24 For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

  2. It would be great if Chick would just focus on creating great tracts to spread the Gospel rather than focus on this kind of stuff that only causes division in the Body of Christ. No matter what Bible version we use, true Christians believe in the non-negotiable and essential doctrines of the faith. Those doctrines can even be easily proved by using most modern versions.

  3. The NIV 2011 is much better than I thought. I had heard a lot of bad things about it, but after reading it I am very happy. I must admit, I also love the KJV.

  4. king james onlyism is a cult and is borderline works salvation in putting your hope into a bible version with language (olde english) that no one uses anymore. Catholics use a dead language in there masses (latin), so do you when you quote the Bible in a dead language, so dont just quote olde english when reading the Bible but speak it the rest of the day too…why are you speaking modern America English? Haha oh yeah are language has been updated but it has the same meaning. May God deal with you in a severe manner for still arguing this garbage at such a late hour, in Jesus name Amen.

  5. In all honesty and from years of experience with KJV-Only advocates. The problem is not so much that people ATTACK people for being "only King James". The problem is that KJVO-people are attacking OTHERS for their conviction about which particular bible they like to use. It's not so much that people are making videos after videos attacking the KJ bible, but KJ Onlyists attacking other versions left and right. We have to see this issue balanced as it is. And I do not find many people rambling against the KJV (and if it's mostly a response to claims from the KJVO camp), as I find KJV Onlyists ramble against others who do not hold to their exclusive view that only the KJ is God's preserved word. let's be real here… God bless!

    PS: and If you justify making videos "against" other versions due to your convictions, you cannot complain when the same happens vice versa, if you want to stay intellectually honest.

  6. The KJO claim to believe in the Word of God, but in reality they believe in the words of men. It started with Benjamin G. Wilkinson, Jasper James Ray, and David Otis Fuller. Then Peter Ruckman, Sam Gipp, Gail Riplinger, Jack Chick, Steven Anderson et al carried the torch. Study the history of the movement. It is about man's conspiracy theories over God's Word.

  7. To paraphrase David W. Daniels: "When you spend all of your time beating down fellow believers who do not share your belief in the KJVO, the one thing you are not doing is focusing on growth and obedience to Christ…."

  8. If you are a Christian sincerely searching for the truth about the translation issue please just find a list of the verses removed AND changed from the King James Bible. Trust your eyes and the Holy Spirit. Compare the verses yourself because that simply is irrefutable evidence. Luke 2:33, Micah 5:22. 1 Tim 3:16 are a good start but there are thousands. I used to read the Esv, Nasv, and Niv and now am convinced that the King James Bible is God's perfect words. What Bible translation you are saved with has no bearing on your salvation though but as a Christian I'm happy to have God's pure words. If you stick w another version but trust in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ you are SAVED. Textual criticism and the self proclaimed scholars don't decide what God's words are. Don't be fooled by them and study BOTH sides of the issue w a focus on comparing verses. A good website that I like av1611.com/kjbp Watch his videos in order and see his verse charts. And of course watch all of David Daniels videos on here. His videos on Codex Sinaiticus alone are simply amazing. Don't trust those that tell you this is strictly an academic or textual criticism issue. It's also very much a faith issue. I hope your study and search is fruitful.

  9. I've posted several answers or hit "Reply" in the comments. When I am logged in to youtube, I can see the replies I've left, and see the reply count is higher on that certain post. When I log out of youtube, and clear my LSO cookies, then come to view the post as a new user, or different user… those replies I left that I can see when logged in, are gone.

    Am I being edited and censored? If so why? And why do my post's show up for me only when I am logged in, why is the system using this kind of deception? Is it typical Google deception or new user initiation? Is it some rule in the long list of rules I missed that says you can only reply one time to one post or something?

  10. I think KJV is the best I'm familiar with, and God definitely uses it greatly, and it is reliable, but no translation is the original text that was delivered through inspired men in those languages. That there is a perfect translation does not make or break God having preserved His word or not, because He certainly had preserved it before there was a KJV! Or when there was no English translation, no Wycliffe or Geneva Bible or Tyndale, had God preserved His word, or had He not? Did He only preserve His word when the KJV arrived?

    Making the KJV, and KJV-O, God's word perfectly translated, perfectly preserved, actually weakens the case for inspiration, not strengthens it. It addicts people to their own fleshly understanding, rather than leading us to be dependent on the Holy Spirit guiding us into all truth. We ought to be grateful for every bit of light God sends our way, and I'm grateful for the KJV, and I use it. But it is the original texts that God delivered through inspired proohets and apostles that are His preserved word,not the KJV.

  11. Also, KJV-O =/= the Bible.
    KJV-O =/= even the KJV!
    Our loyalty should not be to the chequered history of KJV-O, but to the word of God, itself, the sword of the Holy Spirit.

  12. You make a compelling argument for trusting just one text, but not for why the KJV is the one you should trust. It's all well and good to say "stop tuning the engine and start your journey", but setting off in the wrong direction isn't much better than sitting at home fiddling, is it? You say that time spent on historical/linguistic analysis is not time spent obeying Christ, but that is often the exact motivation of such analysis – people want to obey God's word, but they want to make sure they know for certain what God's word actually says, rather than just believing gullibly that this one translation is definitely the perfect translation.

    Sure, some scholarly analysis falls under the kind of frivolous fine-tuning you described, but in order to say "put all that aside, just go back to the fundamentals" you need to make it clear why you trust this particular translation as accurate. Otherwise, you're asking people to give this one text (the KJV) the same kind of blind faith that should be reserved for God alone. "Having faith that the KJV is the one true version of the Bible" is several steps away from "having faith that Jesus is the Son of God".

  13. The logical fallacies demonstrated here are all the proof we need to rightly support the use of more than one version. To assume that verses not found in other versions were removed is absurd. They were ADDED in the KJV.

    To appeal to Psalm 12:6-7 as a proof text for the exclusivity of the KJV is staggeringly ignorant, as there is no way that either the Psalmist or the original audience would have had the KJV in mind. Why not apply these verses to the Geneva Bible, which predated the KJV by fifty years? The Tyndale Bible? You have no reason not to do so. Your willful Scripture twisting here should be all the proof any thinking Christian needs to categorize the KJVO position as logically and theologically untenable. Two minutes and thirty seconds into your presentation and I see no need to listen further.

    I refute KJVO because it is a rancid stew of ignorance, arrogance, and divisiveness. Those who prefer the KJV are on solid ground in terms of choice. Those who insist that a single English translation is the only infallible one are verging on a cult.

  14. Great video, it's good to see that more people trust God's Word, the (KJV), I just wish there was more Churches that would teach the truth,

  15. I m surprise who did removed me about God's name is Jehovah. I ask who did then why. that is why you did not read Bible on JKV. it have there. true

  16. I wonder who afraid answer what God is name? chick.com don't know what God is name? old KJV Bible have real name…… why you fear God's name Jehovah? why you wont answer? I try to help you to learn real name. alert wake up before too late and no kidding

  17. Well, there is a practical consideration: all non English Bibles are therefore not inspired. We would all need to speak English if we would have the "right" Bible. Christ did not speak English.

  18. You're spot on about the spiritual growth bro.. Almost everyone I know and have come across who are KJB-only are clearly led by the Holy Spirit.. The 'multi-book' crowd are SEVERELY stunted, spiritually speaking, much like most Catholics.. I never had no concept of the Holy Spirit when I was trapped in that romanist religion unfortunately.. I read the bible and prayed every day, mass 6 days a week, run myself into the ground with good works – yet I was empty, if not dead, inside.. Praise the Lord he opened my eyes to that pagan cult.. 🙂

  19. KJV is the only preserved inerrant English Bible today, the "modern versions" are tainted by corrupt manuscripts like codex sinaiticus.

  20. I learned the bible using KJV and when I try to use other translations I feel like it loses a lot of its meaning. 100% someones choice what translation they will use, but I dramatically prefer the KJV.

  21. Not one anti-KJV advocate has one pure bible. They are liars pretending to HAVE the pure word of God yet attack it daily! If you have a pure bible, put a name to it! But they never ever do, just like the faker verseless pre-tribbers with yet more opinions with no actual scripture!

  22. Dear David,
    I knew a young man who was a KJVO believer many years ago. He went to a KJVO Baptist Church that was the cornerstone of his belief system. They taught him the doctrines of Jack Chick and Peter Ruckman, which in turn taught him to believe in nothing but the King James Bible. He was a very condemning man. He was taught to believe that every other English version of the Bible was corrupt, and that he should only trust the KJV.
    Then he began to study the Hebrew and Greek, which the original texts of the Bible were written in. As he became fluent in the Hebrew and Greek languages, he realized how vast the Bible really was and that no one language could adequately or completely translate the Bible. Twenty Eight years later, this brother is a pastor, with a degree in Christian counseling. He loves Jesus and is surrendered to serving the Lord in both his local assembly and through his prison ministry. He and his wife take care of several incarcerated men in NY State Corrections, while caring for an elderly person. They also have a Bible giving ministry that reaches souls around the world with the gospel of Jesus Christ. They do not confine themselves to just one translation. If they did, they would not have been able to reach as many people. The scope of their ministry is so much broader because this man was drawn out from the confines of KJVOnlyism.
    You mentioned growth and leaving behind those that will not grow with you; yet I see KJVOnlyism as the most stagnant system of belief the church has ever known! We would all like to believe that the Bible has just one, perfect translation, but that is not how the Bible was handed down to us. The KJV is a great translation, but it is only a translation. As for those texts that were removed…I believe they should be there, but even with all the variants in the New Testament, there is still only a difference of 5% between the two manuscript traditions. That means there is 95% of the NT text that we can agree on, yet we argue over 5% of the entire text. That is pride and that is not a work of the Holy Spirit!i
    You see David, I am that young man that was once a KJVOnlyist, but the Lord delivered me from the bondage of that doctrine, knowing that I would not be able to reach the multitude of souls that I have come into contact with over the years. I used to push people away with that belief, yet today I am drawing people to Christ, and souls are being healed, because it is the Lord who is healing them! I would love to meet you in person and have an open discussion/debate with you. You can pick the date and place. I will come to you. I am a nobody little pastor from Buffalo NY. I am ordained and I am a certified counselor through Houghton College. I have studied textual criticism and Theology through Liberty University, while studying Christian Apologetics through Josh McDowell. I believe KJV onlyism is a dangerous and cultic system of belief that is creating a generation of young believers, filled with hatred. I would love to meet with you sir. I await your response.
    In Jesus always,
    Pastor Brett

  23. Let's see, why? 1. Because it has the word dispensation in it.
    2. Because the kjv was required to have ecclesiastical words in it.
    3.because kjvo has no contextual scriptural support.

  24. I'm comfortable with my kjv and don't need to have my ears tickled with another version of the bible I enjoy my strongs concordance and a greek and Hebrew interlinear and a Webster dictionary

  25. Hehehe. I use the KJV for doctrine and as a reading bible. However, I am a Majority Text person, not a Critical Text person. However, there is no popular Majority Text translation, and the MEV disappointed me because of the dubious translation of passages from the Textus Receptus. So, I use the KJV just about all the time. I like the Geneva Bible and the Coverdale Psalter, but I don't use those for doctrine, and the font used in the Geneva Bible is difficult to get used to. I have a NKJV and an ESV for reference, but they are not my Bible. So, I'm a KJV lover.

    However, as a KJV lover, some Christians will criticize me as if I am a KJV-only person. Telling them I am a Majority Text person usually make no difference. I personally can't give a translation more authority than the original language, but I haven't found anything better than the KJV. What other English translation has been at the heart of so many revivals?

    I was discipled by those influenced by either Charles Haddon Spurgeon or R. A. Torrey, so I am definitely allied with but not exactly like modern Independent Fundamentalist Baptists who are KJV-only. But, I can't blame anyone for being KJV-only.

  26. The only people parsing over exact wording is KJVOs. KJV helped to preserve the word of God. New translations will also. Using KJV as a doctrinal authority is without question a good idea. If another Bible is in our language and teaches the same doctrine, then Gods word is preserved in both old English and modern English. Seems easy to understand.

  27. I couldn't have said it better. I won't trust the modern garbage that they print today claiming that it is the word of God. They all have their own doctrine that they try to install in their paraphrasing translations. I no longer have time to debate those that argue that they have a better version. I have read how the KJV was translated and there is nothing like it anywhere!

  28. Amen, I was a NASB lover but when I read your books (led by the Holy Spirit) my life changed for good. Keep up the good work David.

  29. Proverbs 1:22– 32 speaks of the scornful too. In vs 32 the Hebrew word translated "fool" here would be better read/translated [the] self confident. Re-read it (22-32) with that in mind. Proverbs 26:7, & 9 too.

  30. Greetings

    It's actually about the majority text manuscripts, and not the phony Alexandrian text…A Cardinal from the Vatican, cant remember his name of hand, was sending Erasmus the vake text from Vaticanus during the time of the great 1 John 5-7 controversy in 1521. Erasmus had a gift for weeding out the fake Alexandrian text that had no chain of evidence, nor harmonization….

    As far a the English translations go, i believe the KJB is excellent, HOWEVER, William Tyndale's 1534 translation is the least politically correct bible in the English vernacular. He wasn't trying to build a giant religious beast (Church of England) to rival the RCC. His motives were more purified. He just wanted to get the word out to his fellow countrymen….He also saw the use of such Catholic terms as Church, and charity were pagan Catholic, and incorrect translations…He used the word church twice in his translation describing the pagan temples that the heathens gathered in to worship their false gods. He more correctly translated the "ekklisia" as the "congregation", meaning when 2 or more are gathered in HIS name. He was not under the thumb of the religious beast, nor the political beast, but rather translated from heart purity motives… In the next 80 years the punctuation of the written language had developed greatly, thus the KJB lifts the Deity of Christ, and the Triune Godhead to the highest level of any English translation. That's what West Cot and Hort said they wanted to destroy…Even James strong was in on it with them….

    We are saved by grace (power of God) , through our faithfulness to God, thoroughly furnished unto good works, and he that endures to the end the same shall be saved..Its' all about man working together with God to establish a relationship of covenant love that cannot be obtained by any other means. Faith is the conduit from which the power of the Spirit can flow..In similarity its like the electrical wire which the power is transmitted through. And the apostle Paul said faith is a work, not religious works, and not a static faith, but a faith that works by love bringing forth deeds worthy of repentance. "a faith that worketh by love" Gal. 5-6 . Or as John the baptizer said; bring forth meat worthy of repentance. Man does His part, and God is always there do do His part, that is what covenant theology is….Or as the apostle James said; cleanse your heart of all filthyness and draw near to God and HE will then draw near to you. Or as Solomon said in the 16th proverb, "The preparations of the heart belongs to man", (responsibility of repentance and coming clean with God 2 Cor. 7-11) "and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD". Salomon also said those that seek to cover their sin shall not profit, but he who confesses and FORSAKES his sin shall find mercy….God even told Cain that he could rule over that man of sin, that was seeking to rise up within his members in Gen. 4-7………Paul said three times in the text that we are to be workers together with God. Just like a marriage, a covenant love cannot exist by any other means………Be blessed always Willie & Bonnie

  31. Because satan knows there is Echah, only ONE TRUE God. John 1:1 says that the Word of God IS…GOD and the WORD became FLESH and dwelt among us…..(JESUS). All the other per-versions claim that Jesus is satan…(Isaiah 14:12) (Rev. 22:16) EVERYONE… knows that Jesus is the Morning Star, not lucifer!

  32. Amen! I believe that the KJV is God's Word preserved, and that is the yardstick with which I am using to gauge my life as a Christian.
    Thank You God for preserving Your Word for Your children, in Jesus' name, Amen.

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