Who Was the First Saint?

Who Was the First Saint?


Michelle–or no, excuse me, Michael in
Denver, Colorado, listening to EWTN on 1060 AM. Michael you’re on with Karlo. Hi, my question is, basically, who the
first saint would be be considered? Would it be the man on the cross next to
Christ when He said “today you’ll be with me in paradise,” would it be Moses, cause, you know, you never really hear “Saint Moses,” never hear, you know, “Saint Noah” or
anything like that. Who would be considered to be the first saint? Yeah,
well if you’re asking for sort of the first saint in an official capacity
where the terminology was used, I’m going to have to answer I don’t know the
answer to that question. Regarding the first saint we could ask the question
“what constitutes a saint?” Namely, someone who would have sanctifying grace
dwelling within the soul, right? If you died in that state and enter into the
Beatific Vision, then you’re a perfected saint, right? So the question is, who is
the first one to enter into the beatific vision? And that’s a good question, I mean,
we don’t know exactly. We know for sure, Michael, that all of the Old Testament
“saints,” the righteous people before Christ, when they died, such
as, you know, as our tradition has it, the good thief on the cross, they would not
have entered into the Beatific Vision. So although–immediately, that is to say.
Although they would have died in a righteous state before God, they
would not have entered into the Beatific Vision yet, because Christ had not
ascended into Heaven. So all of those Old Testament righteous people were not
technically “saints,” right, because they had not entered into the
Beatific Vision possessing the fullness of of God’s glory within the soul, and
sanctifying grace, etc. Now we know, according to Divine Revelation and Church
teaching, that those Old Testament righteous “saints,” those Old
Testament righteous people, went into Heaven with Christ as he ascended and
opened up the gates of Heaven, and those souls would have entered
to the Beatific Vision and then thus be properly understood as saints in the
perfected sense, in the full sense. So the question is, “Which one of those souls
made it through the gates first?” Right? And of course we just simply do not know,
so I guess we would say all of the souls were the first saints, right? In plural,
there would be no first, I guess, there would be a collective group entering
into the Beatific Vision with Christ as he ascends into Heaven, and receiving the
Beatific Vision. Now perhaps there might be some who would argue, Cy, that, you
know, Elijah and Enoch in the Old Testament,
the Bible speaks of them being taken up by God, and specifically Elijah being
taken up into Heaven; there’s a little debate about whether or not these two
individuals actually entered into the Beatific Vision prior to Christ’s
ascension or not. There’s a little bit of debate, maybe they were just taken up by
God into the heavens, so to speak, not necessarily intending to convey the
Beatific Vision but there’s arguments for and against that. So I would just say
that the ones who entered into the Beatific Vision would be the group of
all of those Old Testament righteous people who were waiting for the Messiah,
to whom Christ went and preached when He died, according to 1 Peter 3:19 where
He preached to the spirits in prison and then those spirits following Christ,
going with Christ, entering into the Beatific Vision as He ascends into
Heaven. So that group of individuals would be the first souls to become
Saints in full, right, to receive the Beatific Vision. Now one last point,
Michael: if we’re talking about first chronologically, that’s how I would
answer it. But if we’re talking about first in the sense of the GREATEST of
saints, well then of course that would be Mama. Mama Mary, the Blessed
Virgin Mary, right? Because she’s the greatest of all saints, she’s the Queen
of Saints. So that’s how I would answer it. Thanks Michael.

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