Threshold Of Hope – 2017-01-24 –

Threshold Of Hope – 2017-01-24 –


(THRESHOLD OF HOPE THEME MUSIC) (APPLAUSE) THANK YOU. I AM FR. MITCH PACWA. WELCOME TO THRESHOLD OF HOPE WHERE WE DISCUSS THE WRITINGS OF THE CHURCH. BEFORE WE GET TO THAT I WANT TO MENTION THAT TODAY IS THE FEAST OF ST. FRANCIS DE SALES. HE WAS A BISHOP. ODDLY THE BISHOP OF GENEVA BUT HE NEVER GOT TO GO THERE BECAUSE GENEVA BECAME THE CAPITAL OF JOHN CALVIN’S PROTESTANT MOVEMENT. SO HE COULD NEVER GO THERE BUT HE DID A LOT TO EVANGELIZE AND RE-EVANGELIZE CATHOLICISM. HE WAS BORN IN 1567 AND HIS FATHER WANTED HIM TO BE A LAWYER. BUT HE FELT THE CALL OF THE PRIESTHOOD AFTER HE FINISHED LAW SCHOOL. HIS DAD PAID ALL THAT TUITION AND THEN HE GOES AND BECOMES A PRIEST. BUT HE DID WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO AND BECAUSE OF HIS HOLINESS AND LEARNING HE WAS MADE THE BISHOP. HE WAS KNOWN IN PARTICULAR FOR HIS GENTLENESS AND PATIENCE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE KEYS. HE HAD MANY THREATS ON HIS LIFE FROM THE CALVINISTS. BUT HE DID NOT GIVE INTO THAT AND HE CONTINUED TO RECONCILE MANY OF THE CALVINISTS TO CATHOLICISM. HE DID NOT LIVE THAT LONG. HE DIED IN 1622 AT THE AGE OF 55 AND WAS CANONIZED IN 1655. ONE OF THE THINGS HE DID WAS PAY ATTENTION CAREFULLY TO THE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION BEING USED BY THE PROTESTANTS. SO LUTHER AND CALVIN AND OTHERS WROTE A LOT OF PAMPHLETS AND THAT IS HOW THEY COMMUNICATED. SO HE DID THE SAME AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS HE IS THE PATRON OF RELIGIOUS WRITERS AND OF JOURNALISTS. AND THE LORD KNOWS GIVEN THE WAY THAT THE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THE JOURNALISTS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS THEY NEED THE PRAYERS OF THEIR PATRON. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD NOT HURT THEM IS TO GET ON THEIR KNEES AND TO SEEK HIS INTERCESSION THAT WOULD BE GOOD AND ALSO HAVE THE SAME LOVE OF COMMUNICATION AND THE TRUTH AS HE HAD. IT WOULD BE GOOD. I AM IN FAVOR OF THE PEOPLE IN THE PRESS HAVING A GOOD REPUTATION. BUT THEY HAVE TO EARN IT CONSTANTLY AS WE ALL DO. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE THEM DO. TODAY’S THEIR PATRON SAINT. I’D LIKE TO SEE A COMMEMORATION ON CNN, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, FOX. WE GOT TO GET THEM ALL IN THERE REPENTING. THAT’D BE GOOD. [I’M] PREACHING TO THEM. LET US GET DOWN TO OUR BUSINESS WHICH IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ENCYCLICAL SLAVORUM APOSTOLI FIND THE DOCUMENT ON WWW.EWTN.COM IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A COMPUTER GO TO YOUR PUBLIC LIBRARY AND ACCESS IT THERE. THAT IS PART OF YOUR PRIVILEGE AS A CITIZEN WHERE YOU LIVE TO BE ABLE TO USE THE LIBRARY’S COMPUTERS AND THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING COMPARED TO WHAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING. SO YOU MAY GET IT THERE AT THE SAME WEB SITE EWTN.COM WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO GET INVOLVED AND COME HERE TO BEAUTIFUL IRONDALE ALABAMA. PEOPLE ARE HERE FROM MINNESOTA AND SOME FROM ALABAMA FROM HUNTSVILLE AND YOU MAY ALSO PARTICIPATE BY SENDING US A QUESTION [YOU MAY EMAIL YOUR QUESTIONS TO ]IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A COMPUTER AT HOME GO TO YOUR LIBRARY AND SEND IN YOUR QUESTIONS [FOR THRESHOLD OF HOPE] YOU CAN CALL IN WITH YOUR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. [THE LIVE SHOW CALL-IN # IS OPEN ONLY DURING THE LIVE SHOW AT 2PM EASTERN TIME ON TUESDAYS.] [PLEASE REMEMBER TO ADJUST FOR YOUR TIME ZONE] 1-800-221-9460 OR YOU CAN ALSO CALL IF YOU’RE OUTSIDE OF NORTH AMERICA, OUR NUMBER IS 1 OUR COUNTRY CODE IS 1. 205-271-2980 THAT WILL GET YOU IN HERE AS WELL AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. WE’RE BEGINNING WITH PARAGRAPH 10. REMEMBER THIS IS FROM CHAPTER 3 WHICH DESCRIBES SAINTS CYRIL AND METHODIUS HERALDS OF THE GOSPEL. THE POPE BEGINS HERE, SAINTS CYRIL AND ST. METHODIUS FOUND IT NATURAL TO TAKE A POSITION IN ALL THE CONFLICTS WHICH WERE DISTURBING THE SOCIETIES AS THEY BECAME ORGANIZED. AND REMEMBER ST. CYRIL AND METHODIUS WERE ASKED BY THE EMPEROR OF CONSTANTINOPLE AND BY THE PATRIARCH OF CONSTANTINOPLE AND ALSO COMMISSIONED TO GO AND PREACH TO THE SLAVIC PEOPLE. THE SLAVIC PEOPLE WERE COMING FROM THE EAST, AND SOME WERE MOVING SOUTH AND WERE SETTLING. THEY WERE STILL A FAIRLY TRIBAL SOCIETY. THE VERY EARLIEST BEGINNINGS OF A NATION OR NATIONS WERE STARTING BECAUSE THE SLAVIC PEOPLE BELONG TO THE SAME ETHNIC AND LANGUAGE GROUP BUT THEY WERE ALSO DIFFERENT TRIBES AND MOST IN THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS EASTERN AND SOUTHERN AND WESTERN SLAVS. THEY WERE THREE GROUPS BUT THEY WERE ALSO DIVIDED UP [WITHIN THOSE GROUPS]. THESE SOCIETIES WERE JUST GETTING ORGANIZED TOO AS SMALL COUNTRIES. THE FIRST PRINCES INSTEAD OF CLAN [CHIEFS] TRANSITION AS THEY BEGAN TO SETTLE ON LAND INSTEAD OF MIGRATING. THAT WAS THE SLAVIC WAY. MOST OF THE OTHER BARBARIAN TRIBES THAT CAME THROUGH THEY CAME IN AND ENTERED AND TOOK THE LAND AND SETTLED DOWN AND BEAT UP THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE BEFORE THEM UNTIL THEY GOT BEATEN UP BY THE NEXT GROUP. ST. CYRIL AND METHODIUS TOGETHER [TOOK AS THEIR] OWN THE DIFFICULTIES AND PROBLEMS THAT ARE INEVITABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DEFENDING THEIR OWN IDENTITY AGAINST THE MILITARY AND CULTURAL PRESSURE OF OTHER EMPIRES. NOW REMEMBER AT THIS TIME THIS IS THE 800, CHARLEMAGNE, CHARLES THE GREAT, HAD ESTABLISHED THE NEW HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE IN THE WEST. BUT IT WAS NO LONGER MADE OF ROMANS, HE CAME DOWN TO ROME WHERE THE POPE CROWNED HIM AS EMPEROR AND HIS PEOPLE WERE BARBARIAN GERMANS. AFTER HE DIED HE HAD THREE SONS AND [THAT KINGDOM] WAS NOT A VERY SOLID AND STRONG KINGDOM. IT WAS GOING TO BREAK UP AND THEY WERE GOING TO BE FIGHTING EACH OTHER AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WHAT IS CALLED THE ROMANO-GERMANIC EMPIRE WAS TRYING TO INFLUENCE THE SLAVS AND TRYING TO BRING THEM IN UNDER THEIR EMPIRE. WHICH IS WHAT EMPIRES DO, THEY WERE GERMAN. IT IS INTERESTING. THE SLAVIC PEOPLE ARE STILL THE LARGEST GROUP OF INHABITANTS OF EUROPE. HALF OF EUROPE WAS SLAVIC. NOW THAT DOES NOT COME INTO OUR MENTALITY VERY MUCH BECAUSE WE’RE SO INFLUENCED BY THE GERMANIC PEOPLE AND THE ENGLISH OR GERMAN AND DUTCH ARE PART OF THE GERMAN MOVEMENT THE GERMAN PEOPLE THAT SETTLED. AND OF COURSE GERMANY AND AUSTRIA AND OF COURSE THERE IS GERMANIC TYPES OF FOLKS IT IS SORT OF A GERMANIC LANGUAGE IN SCANDINAVIA. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SUB GROUP OF GERMANIC LANGUAGES BUT THOSE LANGUAGES ARE RELATED AND THEN YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE LIKE THE ROMANCE LANGUAGE GROUPS IN FRANCE AND ITALY AND SPAIN WHO ARE ALSO HEAVILY GERMANIC ACTUALLY. THE GERMAN TRIBES SETTLE THERE THE LOMBARDS AND SO ON. MOST TRIBES WERE DIFFERENT CULTURALLY AND LINGUISTICALLY THAN THE SLAVIC PEOPLE AND THEY WERE TRYING TO SWAY THE SLAVIC PEOPLE TOWARD THEM IN FACT PARTS OF AUSTRIA WERE ALREADY SETTLED BY THE SLAVS BUT THE GERMAN-SPEAKING FOLKS BROUGHT THEM UNDER THEIR CULTURAL INFLUENCE AND THEY LOST A LOT OF THEIR SLAVIC BACKGROUND. AND THERE WERE ALSO OTHER KINDS OF DIVERGENCES GOING ON. EVENTUALLY THESE DIVERGENCES LEAD TO THE SPLIT BETWEEN THE EASTERN AND WESTERN CHRISTIANITY SO THE BYZANTINE TRADITION OF THE GREEK SPEAKING CHRISTIANITY VS THE ROMAN AND NOW LATIN SPEAKING VERSION OF CHRISTIANITY WHICH HAD DIFFERENT LITURGICAL TRADITIONS NOT EVEN ONE LITURGICAL TRADITION EVEN IN THE LATIN WEST THERE WERE DIFFERENT LITURGIES GOING ON AT THIS TIME, THE ROMAN LITURGY WAS NOT YET COMPLETELY SETTLED IN EVERYWHERE BECAUSE THERE WAS THE FRENCH LITURGIES DIFFERENT FROM ROME AND IN SPAIN AND OTHER PLACES. THERE WERE DIVERGENCES AND DIVERGENCES AMONG THE BYZANTINES. SO NOT EVERYTHING WAS UNIFORM AS YOU OUGHT TO EXPECT IN A CULTURE WHERE COMMUNICATIONS WERE FAIRLY LIMITED. ESPECIALLY THE GERMAN BARBARIAN TRIBES THAT INVADED DESTROYED THE ROAD SYSTEM THE ROMANS ESTABLISHED CENTURIES EARLIER. SO TRAVELING WAS NOT EASY WHEELS BECAME LESS AND LESS USEFUL THAN THEY HAD BEEN IN ROMAN TIMES. TO BEGIN WITH YOU HAVE TO HAVE ROADS FOR WHEELS. THESE PEOPLE WERE TRAVELING LESS BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT. AS A RESULT A LOT MORE DIVERGENCE OF TRADITIONS WAS GOING ON. AND BY THE WAY THE MISSIONARIES WERE INVOLVED IN THAT. THEY WERE TRYING, AND THEY WERE STILL ALL CATHOLIC EVERYBODY WAS CATHOLIC. THERE WAS ONE CHURCH. THERE WAS NO SPLIT YET. THEY WERE FROM THE GREEK TRADITION AND THE BYZANTINE TRADITION LIVING IN CONSTANTINOPLE AT DIFFERENT TIMES BUT THEY ALSO KNEW THAT THEY WERE UNDER THE POPE THIS WENT ON TOGETHER. THEY TRIED TO KEEP THE BALANCE. BUT THERE WAS A TENSION THEY WERE DEALING WITH. BUT THEY ALWAYS SUCCEEDED IN MAINTAINING PERFECT ORTHODOXY FAITH. ORTHODOXY MEANS RIGHT TEACHING SO THAT THEY HELD THE TEACHING OF THE ONE CHURCH AND THEY NEVER VARIED IN THAT AT ALL AND THEY PAID CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE APOSTOLIC TRADITION BECAUSE IN CATHOLICISM THE TRADITION IS NOT JUST ANY TRADITION THAT COMES ALONG. THE AUTHORITATIVE TRADITIONS IS THE TRADITION THAT GOES BACK TO THE APOSTLES AS WE SEE RECORDED BY THEIR DISCIPLES THE EARLY PATRISTIC WRITERS. THE SCRIPTURES WHICH THEY WOULD TRANSLATE INTO SLAVONIC LANGUAGE AS WELL AS THEY PAID ATTENTION TO THE NEW ELEMENTS IN THE LIVES OF THE SLAVIC PEOPLE THEY WERE EVANGELIZING. THEY PAID CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE NUANCES OF THAT CULTURE. SO THIS MEANS THE SITUATION OF OPPOSITION OFTENTIMES WEIGHED ON THEM. A LOT OF TIMES IT IS NOT EASY FOR ANY PERSON TO LET THE IMPACT OF OUR CHRISTIAN FAITH CHANGE OUR CULTURAL BELIEF. LOOK AT THE WAY SOME PEOPLE OBJECT TO CATHOLIC VALUES VS. POLITICAL AND CULTURAL VALUES OF OUR COUNTRY. [THEY SAY] WELL YOU ARE AGAINST ABORTION BECAUSE YOU ARE CATHOLIC. ACTUALLY IT IS BECAUSE I USED TO BE A BABY INSIDE OF A WOMB AND I HAVE SYMPATHY FOR OTHER BABIES IN THE WOMB. BUT THAT IS THE ARGUMENT. OH YOU ARE JUST AGAINST ABORTION BECAUSE YOU ARE CATHOLIC. SO FIGHTING AGAINST THE CULTURE OF DEATH BY THE NORMS OF OUR FAITH, IT IS A CHALLENGE AND PEOPLE PUSHED BACK. YOU ARE DEALING WITH SLAVIC PEOPLE WHO USED TO GO INTO BATTLE AND STRIPPED NAKED EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE BIT OF UNDERWEAR THEY WERE NAKED AND THEY TOOK THEIR WEAPONS OUT AS FOOT SOLDIERS AND ATTACKED. SO THEY WERE TRYING TO BRING VALUES IN THERE TO ALL THAT. THERE IS AN UNCERTAIN AND PAINFUL COMPLEXITY ABOUT THESE FOLKS. BUT, THAT DID NOT STOP ST. CYRIL AND METHODIUS CONSTANTINE CHANGED HIS NAME TO CYRIL WHEN HE BECAME A MONK. AND HE TOOK ON THE NAME CYRIL. MEANS ” OF THE LORD “. THE GREEK WORD — LIKE IN— — IS HOW YOU SAY THAT. IT COMES FROM THE WORD FOR OF THE LORD. WHEN HE BECAME A MONK HE CONSIDERED HIS NICKNAME AS BELONGING TO THE LORD. — THAT HE NOT TRY TO WITHDRAW FROM THE TRIALS. O IT IS TOO DIFFICULT. THIS IS A BUMMER. NO THEY TOOK ON THE PROBLEMS AND DID NOT WHINE ABOUT IT. THERE WAS A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING SOME TIMES PEOPLE OVERTLY SPOKE TO THEM IN BAD FAITH, TRICKING THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN POLITICAL MOTIVES. SAINT METHODIUS WAS EVEN PUT IN PRISON BECAUSE HE WAS ACCUSED OF WORKING WITH THE GERMANS AGAINST THE SLAVIC PEOPLE AND ONE OF THE SLAVIC PRINCES. BUT HE DID IT FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST. HE HAD BEEN A MONK FOR A WHILE SO HE JUST USED THE PRISON AS ANOTHER PLACE TO PRAY. IT DID NOT DEFLECT EITHER OF THEM FROM THEIR TENACIOUS RESOLVE TO HELP AND TO SERVE THE GOOD OF THE SLAV PEOPLES AND FOR THE UNITY OF UNIVERSAL CHURCH. THAT TENACITY IS THE VIRTUE EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE NOT SLAVIC THEY DID SOMETHING THAT WAS TYPICAL OF THE SLAVIC PEOPLE. THEY ENGAGED IN THE CULTURE. AS MY MOTHER WOULD SAY TO ME IN PARTICULAR, AS SOMETHING THAT BELONGED TO THE POLISH CULTURE WHEN SHE WAS CALLING ME — — “YOU STUBBON POLE ” THE STUBBORNNESS IS THE VICE AND TENACITY IS WHEN YOU TURN IT INTO A VIRTUE. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT TURNS OUT WELL. THIS WAS THE PRICE THEY PAID FOR SPREADING THE GOSPEL. REMEMBER THE WORLD DOES NOT LIKE THE GOSPEL. FR. GROESCHEL WOULD TELL PEOPLE IF YOU START BRINGING ABOUT REFORM AND CHANGE INSIDE A PARISH YOUR BIGGEST OPPOSITION IS GOING TO COME FROM PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH SO GROW UP AND ACCEPT THAT THAT IS THE WAY IT IS. NO WHINING OR I WILL BE SOMETHING TO WHINE ABOUT. NO THAT WAS MY MOTHER AGAIN. (LAUGHTER) THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY PAID THAT PRICE FOR SPREADING THE GOSPEL. BEING IN MISSION. AND IN THEIR COURAGEOUS SEARCH FOR NEW FORMS OF LIVING AND EFFECTIVE WAYS OF BRINGING THE GOSPEL TO THE SLAVIC NATIONS. SO THEY WANTED TO USE THINGS THE RELATED TO THE SLAVIC CULTURE. THE SLAVS ARE NOT THE SAME AS THE GERMAN-SPEAKING PEOPLE. THEY’RE NOT THE SAME AS THE GREEKS OR THE ITALIANS. CULTURES HAVE THEIR OWN GENIUS. YET CULTURES ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN DEMONS. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LITTLE PROBLEMS. THE THINGS THEY TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT ARE OBNOXIOUS SOMETIMES TO THEMSELVES AND OTHER PEOPLE AND THOSE NEED TO BE EVANGELIZED AND PURIFIED BY THE GOSPEL. THAT IS WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO DO. FOR THE PURPOSES OF EVANGELIZATION THE TWO BROTHERS CYRIL AND METHODIUS UNDERTOOK THE DIFFICULT TASK OF TRANSLATING THE TEXT OF THE SACRED SCRIPTURE. WHICH THEY KNEW IN GREEK. THEY WERE BORN IN A GREEK CITY — SO THAT IS WHAT THEY SPOKE AND THEY LEARNED THE GOSPEL IN ITS OWN LANGUAGE. THAT IS THEIR LANGUAGE AS WELL. IT WAS ALREADY BEGINNING TO CHANGE AND DEVELOP JUST LIKE ANY LANGUAGE DOES, THE ENGLISH THAT WE SPEAK IS NOT THE SAME AS SHAKESPEARE AND THE GAP BETWEEN THEM AND THE EVANGELIST WAS EVEN LONGER THAN BETWEEN US AND SHAKESPEARE. IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE BETWEEN US AND CHAUCER. BUT IT HAD NOT CHANGED QUITE THAT MUCH. AS ENGLISH HAS FROM CHAUCER’S DAY TO OUR DAY. BUT THEY KNEW THAT THEY STUDIED IT AND THEY UNDERSTOOD IT SO BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTOOD, THEIR OWN GREEK LANGUAGE WELL, THEN, THEY WERE BETTER ABLE TO TRANSLATE IT INTO THE SLAVIC LANGUAGES BECAUSE THEY LEARNED THOSE LANGUAGES FROM THE PEOPLE LEARNING THE IDIOMS OF THE SLAVIC LANGUAGE. SLAVIC. IT IS INTERESTING. — IS A WORD FROM- SLAVIC IT COMES FROM THE WORD SLAVO— IT MEANS WORD. BECAUSE THEY WERE THE FOLKS WHO UNDERSTOOD EACH OTHER’S WORDS AS OPPOSED TO THE GERMANS. — OR — IN DIFFERENT SLAVIC LANGUAGES SAID [THE GERMANS WERE] THE PEOPLE WHO MUMBLED BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT UNDERSTAND GERMAN THEY USE TOO MANY VOWELS. REMEMBER I SAID LAST WEEK. THE SLAVIC LANGUAGES DOES NOT USE A LOT OF VOWELS. NOT LIKE ITALIANS. AND A LOT OF OTHER LANGUAGES. THEY THOUGHT THE GERMANS MUMBLED AND THAT THEY WERE THE ONES THE PEOPLE OF THE WORD. THEY WANTED THE GOSPEL TO BE UNDERSTOOD NOT IN GREEK WITH ALL THOSE VOWELS AND FOREIGN CONSONANTS, BUT TO USE THE SOUNDS AND CONSONANTS OF THE SLAVIC LANGUAGE. SO THEY USED THEIR OWN GREEK LANGUAGE AND CULTURE FOR THIS VERY DIFFICULT ENTERPRISE. IT IS NOT EASY TO TRANSLATE AND AS CAREFULLY AS THEY DID ESPECIALLY. THE SLAVIC PEOPLE HAD NOT YET DEVELOPED A TYPE OF GRAMMAR. THERE WERE NO SLAVIC GRAMMAR BOOKS. THERE WERE NO SLAVIC DICTIONARIES BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SLAVIC WRITING. THEY DID NOT HAVE AN ALPHABET YET. SO CYRIL INVENTED ONE AND THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED THE CYRILLIC ALPHABET AFTER HIM TO GET ACROSS SOME OF THOSE SOUNDS. THEY HAD TO LEARN HOW THE LANGUAGE WORKED BECAUSE THE SLAVIC LANGUAGES HAVE A VERY COMPLICATED GRAMMAR. IT IS NOT AN EASY GRAMMAR. POLISH IS A VERY DIFFICULT GRAMMAR I THINK EVEN MORE DIFFICULT THAN RUSSIAN. THEY HAD TO THEN FAITHFULLY INTERPRET THE WORDS OF THE GOSPEL INTO THOSE IDIOMS. IN PARAGRAPH 11 [THE ENCYCLICAL GOES ON TO SAY] IN ORDER TO TRANSLATE THE TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL INTO A NEW LANGUAGE THEY MADE AN EFFORT TO GET A GOOD GRASP OF THE INTERIOR WORLD OF THOSE PEOPLE THEY INTENDED TO PROCLAIM THE GOSPEL TO. THEY WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE IMAGES AND CONCEPTS THAT WOULD SOUND FAMILIAR TO THEM WITHOUT MAKING MISTAKES. YOU CAN SAY THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF CORRECT BUT NOT THE RIGHT NUANCE IN LANGUAGES. AND THAT HAPPENS A LOT IN LANGUAGES. QUOTING IN ALL LANGUAGES, SO THEY HAD TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND THEY WANTED THE WORDS TO SOUND FAMILIAR TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY COULD RECOGNIZE THEMSELVES WHEN THEY HEAR THE GOSPEL THAT IS BEING ADDRESSED TO THEM BY CHRIST AS A WORD THAT IS FAMILIAR TO THEM. ALSO THEY REALIZED THAT AN ESSENTIAL CONDITION FOR THE SUCCESS OF THEIR MISSION WAS TO TRANSPOSE THE BIBLICAL NOTIONS AND GREEK THEOLOGICAL CONCEPTS INTO VERY DIFFERENT CONTEXT OF THOUGHT AND HISTORICAL EXPERIENCE. FOR INSTANCE IN GREEK WE TRANSLATE THAT JESUS IS CONSUBSTANTIAL WITH THE FATHER USING LATIN WORDS FOR — — AND IN GREEK YOU HAD TO MAKE A DISTINCTION THERE IS A BIG DISTINCTION BETWEEN — — CONSUBSTANTIAL AS IN BEING VS — THERE’S A WHOLE HERESY OVER ADDING ONE LETTER — MEANING LIKE THE ESSENCE OF THE FATHER OR LIKE THE SUBSTANCE. HOW DO YOU TRANSLATE THAT INTO THE SLAVIC LANGUAGES? THEY HAD TO COME UP WITH NEW FORMS OF CATECHESIS AS WELL. TO EXPLAIN THE FAITH TO THE PEOPLE. THEN TO DEFEND THE LEGITIMACY AND THE VALUE OF THIS SAINT METHODIUS FIRST WITH HIS BROTHER CYRIL AND THEN LATER ON ALONE WENT WITH REAL DOCILITY TO ROME WHEN POPE NICHOLAS THE FIRST ASKED HIM TO COME AND EXPLAIN WHAT HE WAS DOING IN 867 AND THEN POPE JOHN THE 7TH AND 879. SOME OF THE GERMAN CHRISTIANS WERE SAYING THESE GUYS ARE HERETICAL. THEY DID NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND SLAVIC. THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE IDIOMS. ST. CYRIL AND METHODIUS WENT OVER THERE AND EXPLAINED [TO THE POPES] AND THEY SAID OH YOU GUYS ARE ALL RIGHT AND MADE THEM BISHOPS INSTEAD OF SIMPLE PRIESTS. BOTH POPES WANTED TO COMPARE THE DOCTRINE BEING TAUGHT BY THESE BROTHERS IN GREATER MORAVIA WHICH IS ONE OF THE PRINCEDOMS AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS THE SAME AS PASSED DOWN BY THE HOLY APOSTLES PETER AND PAUL TO MAKE SURE IT IS THE SAME FAITH AND THEY EVEN BROUGHT SOME RELICS, THE BROTHERS FOUND THE RELICS OF ST. CLEMENT THE FIRST WHO HAD BEEN EXILED TO THE BLACK SEA AND WHO WAS DROWNED WITH AN ANCHOR AROUND HIS NECK AND THEY FOUND HIS BONES WITH THE ANCHOR STILL TIED AROUND IT. IT HAD NOT BEEN TAKEN AWAY. THEY BROUGHT IT TO ROME AND THEY GAVE IT TO THE POPE AND IT WAS PUT IN THE CHURCH OF ST. CLEMENT. WHICH IS WHERE IT STILL IS. CYRIL AND ST. — WAS BURIED THERE AS WELL. CONSTANTINE ALSO KNOWN AS CYRIL AND HIS FELLOW WORKERS HAD CREATED A NEW ALPHABET SO THAT THE TRUTH COULD BE PROCLAIMED AND EXPLAINED IN OLD CHURCH SLAVONIC WHICH IS THE ORIGINAL WRITING OF THE SLAVIC LANGUAGE. AND IT WOULD THUS BE FULLY COMPREHENDED IT WOULD BE UNDERSTOOD BY THE LISTENERS. THE PEOPLE OF THE TIME. THAT’S A GREAT EFFORT TO LEARN THE SLAVIC LANGUAGE AND UNDERSTAND THE MENTALITY OF THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT. PHILOSOPHY ONE OF MY FAVORITE PHILOSOPHERS — A FRENCHMAN DURING THE MIDDLE 20TH-CENTURY, HE SAID A GREAT LINE “LANGUAGE IS A PEOPLE’S WAY OF SINGING THE WORLD INTO EXISTENCE” THERE’S A CERTAIN MUSICAL-NESS TO ALL LANGUAGE. THIS IS HOW THEY SING THE WORLD. SOME OF THE SONGS ARE LITTLE MORE HARSH THAN OTHERS. SOME ARE MORE MELODIOUS THAN OTHERS. THAT IS WHY THERE’S MORE OF ITALIAN OPERA THAN GERMANIC OPERA. THEY SING THEIR OWN LANGUAGE AND IN THEIR OWN WAY AND [WHEN THEY DO] IT HAS ITS OWN BEAUTY THEY GET AT THE WAY THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. THAT IS WHY HE WANTED THE TWO BROTHERS WHY THEY WANTED TO BRING THIS FAITH IN A WAY THAT WAS WORTHY OF THE MISSIONARY SPIRIT. ALSO THEY WERE EXEMPLARY IN THE WAY THAT THEY ASSIMILATED AND IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES WITH THE NEEDS OF THE SLAVIC PEOPLE AND THE EXPECTATIONS OF A SLAVIC PEOPLE. THEY SAW THEMSELVES AS PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND IDENTIFIED WITH THE FOLKS AND PEOPLE CAN DO THAT WHEN YOU TRULY LOVE A PEOPLE WITH WHOM YOU LIVE YOU LEARN THEIR WAY OF LANGUAGE AND THOUGHT AND YOU IDENTIFY WITH THEM AND THAT IS WHAT THEY DID. THIS WAS A GENEROUS DECISION TO IDENTIFY WITH PEOPLE’S LIVES AND TRADITIONS BECAUSE THEY CAME FROM THE MOST SOPHISTICATED CULTURE IN THAT HEMISPHERE. THE CULTURE OF THE BYZANTINE WAS EXTREMELY SOPHISTICATED COMPARED TO THESE PEOPLE WHO WERE JUST STARTING TO MOVE INTO HUTS AND BUILD HOUSES AFTER HAVING LIVED IN TENTS AND LEAN-TOS. THIS IS A BIG CHANGE THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN WORSHIPING THE GOD OF THUNDER. THAT IS STILL A CURSE WORD AND POLISH. — THE NAME OF THAT GOD . – IT IS A WORD IS STILL USED AS A BAD WORD IN POLAND. THEY’RE MOVING AWAY FROM THE GODS WHO SEND DOWN THE THUNDERBOLTS OVER TO GOD THE FATHER. THE BROTHERS MADE A GENEROUS DECISION TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES WITH PEOPLE’S LIVES AND TRADITIONS BUT THEY WERE PURIFIED AND ENLIGHTENED BY GOD’S REVELATION IN SCRIPTURE. THEY WANTED THEIR CULTURE TO BE PURIFIED OF WORSHIPING A NATURE GOD AND INSTEAD WORSHIP THE GOD WHO CREATED NATURE. THAT IS A BIG CHANGE. CYRIL AND METHODIUS WERE TRUE MODELS OF ALL MISSIONARIES WHO IN EVERY PLACE AND CULTURE FROM ANCIENT TIMES TO THE PRESENT FROM EUROPE TO ASIA AND AFRICA AND AMERICA AND EVERY CONTINENT WHO GIVE THEMSELVES TO BECOME ALL THINGS TO PEOPLE AS PAUL SAID IN CORINTHIANS. THEN THEY LABORED TO TRANSLATE THE BIBLE AND THE LITURGY INTO THE OTHER LIVING LANGUAGES. I REMEMBER WORKING IN PERU, I MET SOME AMERICANS WHO WENT TO VERY SMALL TRIBES OF AMAZON NATIVES TO LEARN THEIR LANGUAGE TO TRANSLATE THE BIBLE INTO THEIR LANGUAGES. THIS IS A VERY POSITIVE THING TO DO. TO BRING PEOPLE ONE WORD OF GOD. TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT WORD IS SOMETHING THAT IS ACCESSIBLE IN THEIR OWN CIVILIZATION AND IN THEIR OWN CULTURAL FORMS AND LANGUAGES SO THAT PERFECT COMMUNION AND LOVE PRESERVES THE CHURCH FROM IDENTIFYING ITSELF ONLY WITH PARTICULAR CULTURES. [SOME PEOPLE THINK] THE ONLY WAY TO BE A CHRISTIAN IS IF YOU ARE ITALIAN [OTHERS SAY ] NO NO THE ONLY WAY IS TO BE A CHRISTIAN IS BE SUCH AND SUCH NO NO. THE CHURCH CAN NOT LIMIT ITSELF TO BEING IDENTIFIED WITH ANY ONE CULTURE. IT IS FOR ALL PEOPLE. IT EXCLUDES ALL ETHNIC BIGOTRY RACIAL PREJUDICE AND NATIONALISTIC ARROGANCE. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY SINCE WE LIVE IN A MODERN ERA WHERE NATIONALISM CAME WITH THE FRENCH REVOLUTION, AND THEN BY THE TIME OF BISMARCK AND OTHER TIMES THEY BEGAN TO ADD RACIST QUALITIES TO IT AND IT BECAME EXTREMELY DESTRUCTIVE OF CULTURE TO BE NATIONALISTIC BECAUSE NATIONALISM MEANS THAT YOU PUT THE NATION OR THE RACE AHEAD OF GOD AND THE CHURCH. WHEREAS, WE BELIEVE THAT GOD LOVES EVERY RACE AND CULTURE AND NATION AND CHERISHES THEM AND DESIRES TO SPEAK IN THEIR WORDS AND LANGUAGE BUT ALSO TO LIFT UP AND PURIFY AND TRANSFORM IT THAT IS OUR TASK AS CHRISTIANS TO NEVER BE NATIONALISTIC. PATRIOTIC YES. NATIONALISTIC NEVER. BECAUSE WE’RE ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF THE ONE TRUE GOD. WE’RE GOING TO COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES. STAY WITH US. WE WANT TO HEAR YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE) (THRESHOLD OF HOPE THEME MUSIC ) (THRESHOLD OF HOPE THEME MUSIC) (APPLAUSE) THANK YOU. WELCOME BACK FIRST OF ALL WE WANT TO MENTION THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU DO WHAT THESE NICE FOLKS HAVE DONE. COME TO OUR STUDIO. IF YOU CAN DO SO CONTACT OUR PILGRIMAGE DEPARTMENT. CALL THE PILGRIMAGE DEPT. FOR INFORMATION: 1-205-271-2966 OR GO TO THE EWTN WEBSITE [AND SELECT “VISIT US” TAB] [TO FIND OUT MASS TIMES FOR TELEVISED MASS IN IRONDALE, ALABAMA AND MASS TIMES UP AT THE SHRINE IN HANCEVILLE, AL; INFORMATION ON HOW TO BE A PART OF THE LIVE SHOW AUDIENCE; TOURS OF EWTN; PLACES TO STAY AND EAT] I DON’T FREQUENT THE MANY PLACES TO EAT SO MUCH ANYMORE BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. GO OUT AND HAVE SOME OF THOSE GREAT HAMBURGERS AT HAMBURGER HEAVEN GET SOME OF THE FINE ALABAMA BARBEQUE. I HAVE TO GET THE TURKEY. ALSO SPEAKING OF PILGRIMAGES, YOU CAN VISIT SPAIN, LOURDES AND FATIMA WITH FR. MIGUEL, MFVA, HE HAS A PILGRIMAGE IN 2017 GOING TO SPAIN, LOURDES AND FATIMA DURING THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE APPARITIONS OF OUR LADY OF FATIMA WHERE LADY APPEARED BACK IN SEPTEMBER 27 THROUGH OCTOBER 9 2017 FOR INFORMATION 1-800-535-9803 I KNOW HE WOULD APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. THAT IS ANOTHER BAD PART OF HAVING THAT SILLY HEART ATTACK I JUST CANNOT DO ALL THAT TRAVELING. MAY BE ONE OF THESE DAYS. LET US TAKE A QUESTION I HAVE A CALLER (CALLER:) HI (FR. PACWA:) WHERE ARE YOU FROM? (CALLER:) NEW HAMPSHIRE (FR. PACWA:) YOU ARE GETTING SOME STORMS? WE HAD THAT SAME STORM DOWN HERE MAYBE YOU COOLED IT OFF BY THE TIME IT GOT THERE. STAY SAFE. WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? (CALLER:) I AM HAPPY ABOUT THE PRO-LIFE MARCH. WHAT I AM STARTING TO DO [IS TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT PRO-LIFE] SO WHAT DO YOU SAY WHEN THESE WELL-EDUCATED PEOPLE TELL YOU THAT WE NEED ABORTION OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF UNWANTED CHILDREN ON WELFARE AND FOOD STAMPS. (FR. PACWA:) FIRST OF ALL TELL THEM THAT THEY’RE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO WANT THEM. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE AS A MATTER OF FACT THERE A COUPLE OF MILLION PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADOPT CHILDREN AND THEY ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE RACE, GENDER OR ETHNIC BACKGROUND OF THE CHILD. THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A FAMILY BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PREGNANCY CRISIS CENTERS RUN BY CHRISTIANS ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY AND THERE NEED TO BE MORE WHO WILL HELP WITH THE PRENATAL CARE. THESE HELP WITH NATAL AND THE POSTNATAL CARE AND WITH CLOTHING AND FOOD. WE HAVE THEM HERE IN BIRMINGHAM ALABAMA. THEY’RE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. WE DO NEED MORE BUT THESE ARE PLACES WHERE THEY CAN GO AND IF THERE WANT TO GIVE THEIR CHILD UP FOR ADOPTION THEY CAN THAT. ESPECIALLY THE WELL-EDUCATED PEOPLE SAYING SUCH A THING. WHY DO NOT THEY ADOPT A KID? IF THEY HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION I ASSUME THAT THEY’RE NOT MAKING TOO BAD OF AN INCOME THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO ADOPT A CHILD AND STOP WHINING ABOUT THEM BECAUSE HERE IS THE ISSUE THAT GOES ON THE WE CAN NEVER FORGET. PLANNED PARENTHOOD HAD A RACIST AGENDA FROM ITS VERY BEGINNING. IT WAS MARGARET SANGER WHO SAID BLACKS ARE A WEED THAT MUST BE ELIMINATED. THAT IS WHY SHE WOULD GO TO THE KKK [KU KLUX KLAN] AUXILIARY TO GIVE THEM TALKS. ABOUT REDUCING POPULATION GROWTH AND GUESS WHAT RACE’S POPULATION THEY WANTED TO STOP GROWING. YOU SEE TO THIS DAY. THEY SAY THEY ARE NOT LIKE THAT ANYMORE OR THAT WE DO NOT HOLD THAT VIEW. WELL WHY DID YOU BUILD 60% OF YOUR ABORTION CLINICS FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD IN AFRICAN-AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE ONLY 12 TO 13 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION? WOULD YOU NOT SAY THAT IS DISPROPORTIONATE BY FIVE TIMES? HYPOCRITES. THERE IS A RACIST AGENDA THAT IS ALSO GOING ON HERE. WE HAVE TO BE PEOPLE THAT SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. IT IS BAD ENOUGH THAT IN NEW YORK CITY, 60 PERCENT OF ALL CHILDREN CONCEIVED END UP GETTING ABORTED. BUT THAT IS 85 PERCENT OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHILDREN WHO ARE ABORTED. OF THE CHILDREN CONCEIVED. HOW DO THEY FIGURE THAT OUT? THEY KNOW HOW MANY LIVE BIRTHS AND THEY HAVE RECORDS ON THE ABORTIONS AND THEY ADD THEM UP. IT IS ALSO THE SAME PERCENTAGE IN WASHINGTON DC AND THE SAME PERCENTAGE IN RUSSIA. 60 % ARE ABORTED. THEY WANT TO USE MURDER AS A SOLUTION TO THAT PROBLEM INSTEAD OF CALLING PEOPLE OF ALL RACES AND ETHNIC GROUPS TO WAIT UNTIL MARRIAGE AND WAIT TO HAVE YOUR CHILDREN UNTIL A MAN AND A WOMAN COMMIT TO EACH OTHER AND SAY YOU ARE IRREPLACEABLE IN MY LIFE AND I AM IRREPLACEABLE IN YOUR LIFE AND WE WILL BE THE IRREPLACEABLE MOTHER AND FATHER FOR THE CHILDREN WE BRING INTO THE WORLD. TEACH THAT KIND OF APPROACH AS WELL AND YOU ALSO WILL HELP TO END POVERTY BECAUSE MOST OF OUR POVERTY IS AMONG WOMEN WHO ARE MOMS OUT OF WEDLOCK AND OF COURSE THEIR CHILDREN. LET US DEAL WITH THE REAL PROBLEM HERE AND STOP THIS FOOLISHNESS BECAUSE IT IS A GUISE FOR RACIST TECHNIQUE. WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE WHERE ARE YOU FROM? (AUDIENCE:) HUNTSVILLE ALABAMA (FR. PACWA:) HUNTSVILLE ALABAMA ROCKET CITY (AUDIENCE:) I HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY… (FR. PACWA:) ARE YOU A ROCKET SCIENTIST? (AUDIENCE:) NO. (FR. PACWA:) MAYBE SHE CANNOT TELL ME I MAY BE ASKING A BIG SECRET. WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? (AUDIENCE:) I HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS ATTENDING THE LATIN MASS AND THEY HAVE A GREAT ATTACHMENT TO THE LATIN MASS. THEY WANT TO GO TO THE LATIN MASS EXCLUSIVELY. I HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE DRAW IS. (FR. PACWA:) WHAT DO YOU ASK THEM? WHAT HAVE THEY TOLD YOU? (AUDIENCE:) THAT IS THE WAY WE’RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THIS. (FR. PACWA:) SO THEY HAVE NOT REFLECTED ON IT ENOUGH EITHER. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO NOT CHALLENGE THEM AWAY FROM IT BUT CHALLENGE THEM TO REFLECT ON WHAT IS GOING ON HERE IS WHAT I GENERALLY FIND ON THE ONE HAND ESPECIALLY BEFORE THE NEW TRANSLATION OF THE LITURGY. RIGHT NOW THE (LATIN) “NOVUS ORDO” HAS A NEW TRANSLATION THAT IS VERY MUCH MORE TRUE TO THE LATIN OF THE “NOVUS ORDO” BUT BEFORE THAT TRANSLATION JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, WE SAW A LOT OF LITURGICAL ABUSE. THERE WERE SOME EXTRAORDINARILY FOOLISH AND SILLY THINGS BEING DONE IN THE LITURGY. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS MADE IT TO THE SECULAR NEWSPAPER WHERE SOMEBODY HELD UP A ET MASK. MANY REMEMBER THE MOVIE ET BACK AROUND 1980. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT VERY MUCH AN ABUSE OF THE LITURGY. ET GAVE NO INDICATION OF BEING A CATHOLIC AND HE DID NOT HAVE ANY LITURGICAL CREDENTIALS. IT WAS A PASSING FAD. IT WAS A FUN MOVIE. I ENJOY IT I’M NOT AGAINST ET BUT IT IS NOT A LITURGICAL THEME. BUT THERE WERE OTHER CRAZY THINGS THAT WENT ON. A HUSBAND AND WIFE TOLD ME OF BAKING M AND M’S INTO THE [EUCHARISTIC BREAD. THAT IS A COOKIE. I LIKE COOKIES BUT THAT IS NOT BREAD. IT CANNOT BE THE BODY OF CHRIST. YOU HAVE TO USE UNLEAVENED BREAD. FOR US. IT IS NOT ONLY THAT THE LATIN MASS WAS FREE FROM THE ABUSES BUT THERE IS A RETURN TO A KIND OF DIGNITY THAT WAS SOMETIMES MISSING. YOU STILL SEE IT SOMETIMES WITH OLDER PRIESTS. THEY HAVE SORT OF A LAZY FAMILIARITY ABOUT A MASS THAT IS SOMEWHAT ALONG THE LINES OF [WEARING] OLD SLIPPERS THAT YOU’RE COMFORTABLE IN. WHEREAS, IT NEEDS TO BE IT IS SOMETHING MORE FORMAL THAN JUST WEARING OLD SLIPPERS AND BEACHWEAR OR FLIP FLOPS TO MASS. THERE’S A DIGNITY ABOUT ENTERING INTO THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF CHRIST THAT WAS LOST. THE ATTEMPT AND THIS IS WHERE WITH THE POPE WAS SAYING ABOUT ADAPTING TO THE CULTURE IS A POSITIVE THING, BUT THERE IS ALSO ELEVATING THE CULTURE. NOT BRINGING THE LITURGY DOWN CULTURALLY BUT ELEVATING THE CULTURE THROUGH THE LITURGY SO THAT PEOPLE [CAN EXPERIENCE] LITURGY CHANT BECAUSE IT IS BEAUTIFUL AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE MUSIC THAT HAVE WORDS THAT ARE HERETICAL. SOMETIMES IT IS JUST HERETICAL. OFTENTIMES JUST PLAIN SILLY. PEOPLE ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO THE SUPERFICIAL AND EGO MANIACAL KIND OF HYMN BUT HOW GREAT WE ARE INSTEAD OF ADORATION. THAT IS WHAT ATTRACTS PEOPLE TO THAT DIGNITY OF THE MASS. JUST LIKE, WHY ARE SO MANY KIDS HUNG UP ABOUT THE PROM; ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS; I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL SEMINARY SO I DID NOT EVER ATTEND ONE BUT [WHAT IS IT WITH ] THE SENIOR PROM. WHY IS THAT SO IMPORTANT? WOMEN LOOK BEAUTIFUL IN THESE FORMAL GOWNS AND THE YOUNG MEN PUT ON A TUXEDO. NOW THEY PUT THEM ON WITH GYM SHOES AND LOOK STUPID. BUT THERE IS A FORMALITY ABOUT THAT THAT MAKES YOU ENTER INTO AN ADULT WORLD RIGHT? THAT IS WHY IT IS [THAT KIDS SAY] SO I MUST GO OUT WITH THAT BOY OR GIRL, IT IS SO IMPORTANT. THIS [SENSE OF IMPORTANCE IS THEIR SENSE OF] THEIR DIGNITY. PEOPLE LOOKING FOR THAT KIND OF DIGNITY AT MASS. WE WERE MISSING THAT. I THINK IT IS COMING BACK. I DO NOT SEE THE ABUSE AS MUCH ANYMORE. RARELY. AND THEY ARE MINOR WHEN I DO SEE THEM OR HEAR OF THEM. I DO NOT SEE THEM MUCH BUT I HEAR OF THEM. THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON. WE HAVE ANOTHER CALLER. (CALLER:) YEAH FR. PACWA? (FR. PACWA:) WHERE ARE YOU FROM? (CALLER:) RHODE ISLAND. (FR. PACWA:) A GREAT STATE YOU GOT THAT STORM? (CALLER:) IT FINALLY STOPPED (FR. PACWA:) WE LOST OUR ELECTRICITY DOWN HERE. I HOPE YOU ARE OK. WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? (CALLER:) I AM 73 YEARS OLD AND HAVE A 64 YEAR-OLD GIRLFRIEND. WHEN I GO TO CONFESSION I GET ABSOLUTION. THE PRIEST THE LAST TIME SAID THAT WE HAVE ONE MORE YEAR AND HE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE ABSOLUTION. I THINK THIS IS BASED ON LUKE CHAPTER 13. THE REASON WE DO NOT GET MARRIED IS FOR FINANCIAL REASONS (FR. PACWA:) BECAUSE YOU LOSE SOCIAL SECURITY RIGHTS? (CALLER:) YES NOT ME THAT’S SHE DOES. IF I WAS TO DROP DEAD SHE WOULD BE IN A MESS. MY QUESTION IS IS THERE ANY SUCH THING AS A SACRAMENTAL MARRIAGE WITHOUT TELLING THE STATE? (FR. PACWA:) THERE IS BUT MOST DIOCESE DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE AND ESPECIALLY NOW. THERE’S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF JEOPARDY IN OR DANGER OR RISK OF JEOPARDY WITH THE STATE BECAUSE WE WON’T DO SAME-SEX MARRIAGES AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS SOME GOVERNMENTS WANT TO FORCE US TO DO SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE. BUT IN EUROPE YOU CAN GO AND OTHER PLACES WHERE THE STATE’S LICENSE IS A LITTLE CEREMONY THAT THEY DO AND IT IS A SECULAR CEREMONY THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE CHURCH CEREMONY. I’D DO NOT KNOW IF YOU COULD GET THAT DONE BY YOUR LOCAL PRIEST BUT I WOULD TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT. I’M AFRAID IT WILL BE DIFFICULT THOUGH. I’M AFRAID I AM STILL A KID FROM THE ’60S. I HAVE THAT LITTLE REBELLIOUS STREAK IN ME AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT OPPRESSION. I JUST CANNOT GET A FEW MILLION PEOPLE TO MARCH WITH ME ON THIS. I WOULD PERSONALLY BE IN FAVOR OF THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ONE THING AS A SHORT-TERM ISSUE. I KNOW YOU WANT THE SACRAMENT AND THE SACRAMENT IS WHAT IS KEY. I HATE FOR THE STATE TO BE INVOLVED. I THINK IT IS AN INJUSTICE THAT ELDERLY PEOPLE WOULD BE PUT IN SUCH FINANCIAL RISK ALL OVER THIS. I THINK THAT IS AN INJUSTICE AND SECOND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND THIS IS SOMETHING, I WILL BRING IT UP WITH ONE OF OUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGED THAT YOU CAN. WIDOWS AND WIDOWERS ARE LIVING LONGER. THERE ARE MORE WIDOWS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN WE MAINTAIN A SOCIAL SECURITY AND FINANCIAL SECURITY FOR THE ELDERLY WHO WANT TO REMARRY. THAT IS A DUMB LAW IN MY OPINION. TALK TO LOCAL PRIEST AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO IN A SMALL CHAPEL THERE. ROMEO AND JULIET DID IT. THEY’RE FAMOUS. (FR. PACWA:) HELLO ESTELLE. WHERE ARE YOU FROM? (CALLER:) ARIZONA (FR. PACWA:) WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? (CALLER:) TAKING BIRTH CONTROL PILLS, IS IT A FORM OF ABORTION? AND IF IT IS WHY DO THEY NOT DISCUSS THIS MORE IN THE CHURCH? (FR. PACWA:) A COUPLE OF THINGS. WITH BIRTH CONTROL THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY ACT ON A WOMAN’S BODY. THE MAIN GOAL IS THEY BOND ESTROGEN TO A CHEMICAL WHEN YOU TAKE IT AND YOUR BODY THINKS IT IS PREGNANT BY THE PRESENCE OF THE ESTROGEN, BUT THERE ARE SOME OCCASIONS. IT DOES NOT HAPPEN ALL THE TIME THAT THERE IS A DEFINITE RISK THAT AS THE BODY THINKS AS A WOMAN’S BODY THINKS THAT IT IS PREGNANT WHEN THERE IS A CONCEPTION ANYWAY, THE PILL IS ONLY 90 PERCENT SUCCESSFUL. ABOUT 10 PERCENT MAYBE EIGHT TO 10%. IT DOES NOT STOP CONCEPTION. IN SOME CASES IT DOES INDUCE AN ABORTION. BUT ONLY SOMETIMES. THAT IS NOT UNIVERSAL. I WOULD TALK TO A MEDICAL DOCTOR ABOUT THAT TO GET SOME OF THE SPECIFICS. LAST WEEK JIM AND JOY HAD DR. ANGELA LANFRANCHI. SHE HAS DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH BECAUSE SHE IS AWARE THAT THE PILL INCREASES THE RISK OF CANCER ESPECIALLY BREAST CANCER. MUCH HIGHER RISK ESPECIALLY WHEN GIRLS TAKE IT AT AN EARLY AGE THERE’S THAT MUCH HIGHER RISK OF BREAST CANCER. THAT IS WHERE SHE HAS BEEN DOING RESEARCH. WELL THEY ARE CHECKING ON ME I HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME WE ARE OUT OF TIME. MAY GOD BLESS YOU. PRIEST: IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. R. AMEN. REMEMBER WE NEED YOUR HELP SO WE CAN PAY OUR BILLS. REMEMBER: “KEEP US BETWEEN YOUR GAS AND ELECTRIC BILL” THIS NETWORK IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY YOU. THAT IS HOW MOTHER ANGELICA SET IT UP. (APPLAUSE) (THRESHOLD OF HOPE THEME MUSIC)

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