Threshold of Hope – 2015-06-02 – Fr. Mitch Pacwa, SJ

Threshold of Hope – 2015-06-02 – Fr. Mitch Pacwa, SJ


(THRESHOLD OF HOPE THEME MUSIC) (APPLAUSE ) THANK YOU. WELCOME TO THRESHOLD OF HOPE WHERE WE DISCUSS THE WRITINGS OF THE CHURCH. TODAY WE CELEBRATE THE FEAST OF TWO MARTYRS. OF SAINTS MARCELLINUS AND PETER “4TH CENTURY CHRISTIAN MARTYRS” THIS WAS THE LAST GASP PERSECUTION BY THE ROMAN EMPIRE BUT WAS THE WORST. MARCELLINUS WAS A PRIEST PETER WAS AN EXORCIST IN THOSE DAYS THEY HAD DIFFERENT SUB ORDERS. MINOR ORDERS. ONE OF THEM WAS AN EXORCIST. THEY HAD TO CLEAR OUT OF PLACE FOR THEIR OWN EXECUTION SO THAT OTHER PEOPLE WOULD NOT FIND THEIR BODIES BUT THEY LATER GOT A REVELATION AS TO WHERE THEY WERE. THE CHRISTIANS FOUND THEIR BODIES AT THE END OF THE PERSECUTION AND GAVE THEM A PROPER BURIAL. AS A MATTER OF FACT POPE–WHO DID A LOT TO PRESERVE THE STORIES AND TOMBS OF THE MARTYRS DURING DIOCLETIAN’S PERSECUTION, HE SAID THERE EXECUTIONER BECAME A CHRISTIAN HIMSELF BECAUSE OF THEIR GOOD EXAMPLE. THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE SHOULD PRAY ABOUT. WE HAVE MANY MORE MARTYRS IN THE LAST 100 YEARS. THEN IN THE FIRST 300 COMBINED AND AS A MATTER OF FACT MORE MARTYRS IN THE LAST 100 YEARS THAN IN THE FIRST 1900 YEARS OF THE CHURCH. THEIR 75 MILLION MARTYRS IN THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH AND 40 MILLION DIED IN THE LAST 100 YEARS. MORE THAN HALF. WE I I REMEMBER GETTING MAIL FROM ONE OF THE VIEWER SAYING I CANNOT PRAY FOR ISIS FOR THE TERRIBLE THINGS THEY’RE DOING TO PEOPLE BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE DO. THAT IS WHAT WE DO. WE PRAY FOR THEM. WE PRAY FOR THEIR CONVERSION. IF THE EXECUTION OF WARWICK AND PETER IT CAN BE CONVERTED SO CAN ISIS AND WE PRAY FOR THEM TO COME TO THE TRUTH JESUS CHRIST OF THE FOUR GOSPELS. THAT IS OUR PRAYER. WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING “VERITATIS SPLENDOR” (“SPLENDOR OF TRUTH”) FOR “EWTN RELIGIOUS CATALOGUE ” GO TO0R CALL 1-800-854-6316 IF YOU PREFER, YOU MAY DOWNLOAD A FREE ELECTRONIC COPY. FIND “VERITATIS SPLENDOR” (“SPLENDOR OF TRUTH”) DOCUMENT ON WWW.EWTN.COM -SELECT FAITH TAB -SELECT DOCUMENT LIBRARIES IN DROP DOWN MENU -SCROLL DOWN TO THE KEYWORD FIELD -TYPE: VERITATIS SPLENDOR OR “SPLENDOR OF TRUTH” -SELECT SEARCH READ ALONG OR PRINTED OUT. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU PARTICIPATED THE SHOW. IT MADE YOU LIKE THESE NICE FOLKS HAVE DONE IN COME TO BEAUTIFUL ALABAMA NEXT TO BIRMINGHAM ALABAMA. OR YOU MAY SEND A QUESTION. [YOU MAY EMAIL YOUR QUESTIONS TO ]OR YOU MAY CALL DURING THE LIVE BROADCAST. WHICH IS TODAY. TUESDAY. AT 2:00 P.M. EASTERN TIME COMMENTS. ONLY DURING THE LIVE SHOW TUESDAYS.] YOUR TIME ZONE] 1-800-221-9460 OR 205-271-2980 IF YOU’RE OUTSIDE OF NORTH AMERICA. IT IS A LOCAL NUMBER AND YOU MAY CALL FROM BIRMINGHAM ALABAMA ALSO. WE’RE ON PARAGRAPH 29 REMEMBER LAST WEEK WE BEGAN CHAPTER TO ABOUT THE CHURCH ROLE OF DISCERNING AND THE TENDENCY IS A MORAL THEOLOGY TODAY. WILL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE THINGS. WE’RE ON PARAGRAPH 29 POINT TO WHERE IT SAYS THE VATICAN COUNCIL INVITED SCHOLARS TO TAKE SPECIAL CARE FOR THE RENEWAL OF MORAL THEOLOGY. THIS IS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT. “OPTATAM TOTIUS” THE DOCUMENT ON SEMINARIES AND PRIESTLY FORMATION. IN PARAGRAPH 16 IS A SPECIAL CARE MUST BE GIVEN TO THE PERFECTING OF MORAL THEOLOGY. (FR. PACWA:) NOW WHY DID THEY SAY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ESPECIALLY FOCUSED ON THE BIBLE? ONE OF THE REASONS WAS MORAL THEOLOGY HAD BEEN VERY VERY STRONGLY INFLUENCED BY CANON LAW. AS A RESULT, MORAL THEOLOGY WAS VERY FOCUSED ON A LEGALISTIC MENTALITY. SOME OF US WHO ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER THAN OTHERS MIGHT REMEMBER THE DAYS WHEN HOW FAR CAN I GO BEFORE IT IS A MORTAL SIN ? WHEN DOES IT TURN FROM VENIAL TO IMMORTAL? SEASONED PEOPLE MY AGE SMILING BECAUSE THEY REMEMBER THOSE DAYS. THE REASON THE QUESTION CAME UP IS BECAUSE ONE OF THE CORE OF MORAL THEOLOGY WAS CAMELOT. AND ESPECIALLY FROM THE 18TH CENTURY. AND IN THAT 18TH- CENTURY. THE COUNCIL GAVE ANOTHER IN ENCOURAGEMENT TO MORAL THEOLOGIANS. IN THE CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH IN THE MODERN WORLD CALLED ” GAUDIUM ET SPES ” (FR. PACWA:) SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ANYBODY WHO KNOWS LANGUAGE UNDERSTANDS, YOU CAN HAVE AN OLD BOOK SUCH AS ST. BEOWULF, OR CHAUCER’S CANTERBURY TALES, OLD BOOKS, THEY. ARE IN THEY BUT IF YOU READ THEM IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. VERY DIFFICULT. BECAUSE ENGLISH HAS CHANGED. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVEN TRANSLATIONS INTO MODERN ENGLISH VERY AS MODERN ENGLISH CHANGES. YOU’RE STILL TRYING TO SAY THE SAME THING THAT BEOWULF OR CHAUCER SAID, BUT USE MORE MODERN LINGO. WHICH IS A MODERN WORD. YOU ALSO WILL DO THE SAME WITH MORAL THEOLOGY. YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO EXPRESS THE FACTS OF OUR MORAL THEOLOGY AT THE TRUTH OF WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG TO NOT CHANGE. BUT THE VATICAN COUNCIL SAID YOU HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO HELP MODERN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT BETTER. THAT IS MORE THE ISSUE. THIS HAS BECOME EVEN A BIGGER PROBLEM BECAUSE IN THE LAST 45 YEARS OR MORE, THEIR VAN A REAL DECLINE IN PEOPLE’S KNOWLEDGE OF THE FAITH. KNOWLEDGE OF MORAL TEACHING. A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE CHURCH TEACHES. THE DO NOT KNOW. THE KNOW THEY DO NOT KNOW THE COMMANDMENTS. THE ONLY DO WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS IN MODERN TERMINOLOGY THAT WE HAVE TO START OFF WITH THE BASICS. SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GIVE RELIEF BASIC ISSUES ABOUT WHY SOMETHING IS RIGHT OR WRONG. AND IT IS COMPLICATED IN THE MODERN WORLD BY THE FACT THAT MANY LEADERS IN THE MEDIA AND POLITICS AND BUSINESS ARE TRYING TO CHANGE WHAT ORALITY IS ABOUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDAS AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO BE EXTRA ALERT TO BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO FEAR OF SPEAKING ABOUT RIGHT AND WRONG IN SAY WELL YOU DO NOT WHAT MY POLITICAL PARTY. WELL IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU FOR YOUR POLITICAL PARTY. THE ISSUE IS ABOUT WHAT HAS GOD TAUGHT US ABOUT THE ISSUES OF RIGHT AND WRONG. THAT IS THE ISSUE. FROM THE NEED TO EXPLAIN MORAL THEOLOGY IN MODERN TERMS IS A FURTHER INVITATIONS EXTENDED TO ALL THE FAITHFUL ESPECIALLY IN PARTICULAR TO THE THEOLOGIANS. AGAIN IN ” GAUDIUM ET SPES ” IT SAYS (FR. PACWA:) WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE ARE THINKING. BECAUSE IF WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THEIR MENTALITY. THEN WE CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE FAITH AND IT WILL GO OVER THEIR HEAD OR UNDER THEIR RADAR. THAT BECOMES THE REALITY. YOU HAVE TO HELP THEM THINK THROUGHOUT ISSUES. FOR INSTANCE, TODAY WE ARE DEALING WITH ISSUES OF THE MORALITY OF REPRODUCTION AND HELP REPRODUCTION IS DONE. MEDICAL ETHICS. WE’RE DEALING WITH QUESTIONS OF THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN. AND WAYS THAT WERE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT 60 YEARS AGO. THEY JUST WERE NOT ON THE RADAR. NOBODY TALKED ABOUT USING EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS 67 YEARS AGO. NO IDEA OF SUCH A THING. THE IDEA OF DEALING WITH THE NEW PROBLEMS IS VERY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE TO WATCH BECAUSE POLITICIANS AND MEDIA PEOPLE TRIED TO MANIPULATE THOSE ISSUES. WELL. WE SHOULD DO THEIR RESEARCH ON STEM CELLS BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO HELP PEOPLE WE LOVE. THEY WILL PUT CELEBRITIES AND THE SUCH WHO MIGHT BE HELPED BY THIS MUCH. LOVED CELEBRITIES. BUT THE DO NOT WANT TO DO WITH THE ISSUE IS THAT YOU HAVE TO KILL THE EMBRYO TO GET THE STEM CELL. THAT IS THE MORAL ISSUE. IS IT RIGHT FOR YOU TO KILL UNKNOWN ARMED INNOCENT PERSON IN ORDER TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE? I DO NOT THINK SO. THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE THINK THROUGH THESE ISSUES AND COME OP WITH WAYS OF ADDRESSING THEM IN SPEAKING TO THE ISSUE WITH OUT CHANGING THE DOCTRINE. NOW THE WORK OF MANY THEOLOGIANS WHO FOUND SUPPORT IN THE COUNCIL’S ENCOURAGEMENT HAS ALREADY BORNE FRUIT IN INTERESTING AND HELPFUL REFLECTIONS ABOUT THE TRUTHS OF FAITH TO BE BELIEVED AND APPLIED LIFE. MANY THEOLOGIANS TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY. IT ALSO MEANS THAT THEOLOGIANS HAVE HAD TO KEEP UP WITH CULTURE. SO FOR INSTANCE BACK OF THE TIME OF THE VATICAN COUNCIL, THE POPULAR KIND OF DISCOURSE CAME FROM EXISTENTIALIST PHILOSOPHERS. PEOPLE LIKE–AND MARTIN HEIDEGGER THOSE TWO AND MANY OTHERS. WE HAD TO PUT THINGS TO UNDERSTAND TO MAKE THEM UNDERSTOOD IN THE WORLD. THOSE WERE NOT THE BIG THINKERS ANYMORE. NOT MANY PEOPLE READ– OR HEIDEGGER TODAY. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ISSUES OF RELATIVISM. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH A CULTURE THAT LIKES NARCISSISM. A VERY NARCISSISTIC CULTURE IN WHICH FEELING GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MAKING RIGHT DECISIONS THAT INCORPORATE OTHER PEOPLE’S FEELINGS. THIS IS A DIFFERENT PROBLEM. PEOPLE DID NOT THINK LIGHT THAT AS MUCH IN THE PAST. TODAY AS PSYCHOLOGIST POINT OUT NARCISSISM IS PANDEMIC. PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDER THAT IS THROUGHOUT THE CULTURE AND VERY WIDESPREAD. SO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE. THEOLOGIANS KEEP HAVING TO ADAPT. THE GIVE REFLECTIONS OFFERED IN BETTER FORM SUITED TO THE SENSITIVITIES AND QUESTIONS OF OUR CONTEMPORARIES SUCH AS WHY IS RELATIVISM A PROBLEM?. TODAY, THE RELATIVISM TAKES A VERY POPULAR FORM KNOWN AS THE POLITICALLY CORRECT. SO THAT ONCE I DECLARE THIS IS POLITICALLY INCORRECT YOU MAY NOT SAY ANY MORE AND THAT FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS NOW IMPERILED. YOU CANNOT SAY CERTAIN THINGS WITHOUT PEOPLE JUST COMING DOWN ON YOU, NOT JUST WITH IDEAS BUT WITH HATRED BECAUSE IF YOU DARE TO DO WHAT IS POLITICALLY INCORRECT YOU ARE HATEFUL PERSON AND THEY EXPRESS THAT HATRED. THAT OFTEN TIMES DO BY CALLING THE OFFENDER THE HATER. IT IS VERY COMMON. THE MATTER OF THE ISSUE. THE CHURCH ESPECIALLY THE BISHOPS TO HIM JESUS CHRIST PRIMARILY ENTRUSTED THE MINISTRY OF TEACHING ARE DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK OF THESE THEOLOGIANS AND THEY ENCOURAGE THE THEOLOGIANS TO CONTINUE THEIR EFFORTS INSPIRED BY THE PROFOUND TEACHING OF PROVERBS. CHAPTER ONE. . (FR. PACWA:) THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP VERY MUCH IN MIND. THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM. IT IS NOT ONLY PSALM PROVERBS CHAPTER ONE BUT PSALM 111. VERSE 10 I BELIEVE GIVES THE SAME TEACHING. SIRACH SAYS THAT MANY TIMES. IT DOESN’T SAY THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE FINAL END PRODUCT. IT IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM. BUT A PROPER RESPECT FOR GOD AS THE SOURCE OF TRUTH AND GOODNESS IS THE START BEFORE BECOMING A WISE PERSON AND AVOID BECOMING A FOOL. THIS IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. ARE THE TRENDS IN OUR CULTURE LEADING US TO MORE WISDOM OR TO MORE FOLLY? THAT IS THE BASIC QUESTIONS. IF AT THE SAME TIME HOWEVER WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THEOLOGICAL DEBATES AFTER THE COUNCIL THAT IS THE VATICAN COUNCIL THERE DEVELOPED CERTAIN INTERPRETATIONS OF CHRISTIAN MORALITY WHICH ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT ST. PAUL CALLED SOUND TEACHING. REMEMBER HE WROTE IN TIMOTHY AND SECOND TIMOTHY. CHAPTER 4. (FR. PACWA:) THIS IS VERY MUCH, THAT VERSE IS WHAT I WANTED TO USE AS THE BASIS FOR MY TITLE OF MY BOOK ON THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT. NOW. THE PUBLISHERS DID NOT LIKE MY IDEA. SO THEY CALLED IT ” CATHOLICS IN THE NEW AGE ” I DID NOT LIKE THERE I DID THAT THEY HAD THE PRESS AND I DO NOT. MY IDEA WAS TO CALL IT TICKLING CATHOLIC YEARS. EARS. AND FEATHERWEIGHTS. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS TOO MUCH OF IT SMART ALEC FOR YOUR FIRST BOOK. I STILL THINK THAT IS A BETTER TITLE. THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE GOING ON. SO MUCH OF WHAT IS PRESENTED AS POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS IN FACT FEATHERWEIGHT’S OF THOUGHT THAT THEY USED TO BATTER PEOPLE WITH. SO LONG AS YOU REMEMBER THAT THE IDEAS MIGHT JUST BE FEATHERWEIGHT IDEAS, AND NOT REAL THINKING, THEN YOU CAN WITHSTAND THE BATTERING AND GO FORWARD TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS SOUND DOCTRINE AND TEACHING. AND NOT BE COWED BY THE ANGER, RAGE. THAT IS WHAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE LIKE TO DO. RAGE. SO YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO DEAL WITH IT. THE CHURCH IS MAGISTERIUM DOES NOT INTEND TO IMPOSE ON THE FAITHFUL IN A PARTICULAR THE LOGICAL SYSTEM. STILL LESS PHILOSOPHICAL ONE. THE CHURCH IS NOT TEACHING YOU MUST FOLLOW FERRIS BOTTLE. YOU MUST FOLLOW PLATO. WE HAVE A, WE HAVE TO GREATEST DOCTORS OF THE CHURCH BURIED ON THAT. ST. AUGUSTINE FALL OF PLATO. ST. THOMAS AQUINAS BOTTLED BEERS BOTTLE. CHURCH CANONIZE BOTH AND MADE BOTH OF THEM DOCTORS AND THEY WOULD GO ON FOR OTHER PHILOSOPHIES AND SYSTEMS OF THEOLOGY. WE HAVE FREEDOM TO DO THAT SO LONG AS THEY HELP ELUCIDATE THE TRUTH. AND NOT JUST THAT THEY ARE ” WHAT IS MYSELF EXPRESSION? ” I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND TOLD THIS TO ONE OF MY FAVORITE STORIES. I WAS BUYING SOMETHING TO EAT AT AN AIRPORT. A HOT DOG. THE GUIDANCE OF ME. … I LOVE ART BUT MAKE SURE THAT YOU SEEK TO EXPRESS BEAUTY AND GOODNESS AND DO NOT EXPRESS YOURSELF. OTHERWISE, YOU SEE SELF EXPRESSION IN MODERN ART MUSEUMS IS PARTICULARLY UGLY. DUTY ON THE OTHER HAND IS BEAUTIFUL. THE SAME THING WITH MORAL THEOLOGY. IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT CHOOSING A PHILOSOPHY TO HELP YOU THAT EXPRESSES HOW YOU FEEL. IS IT TRUE? THAT MUST BE THE QUESTION. IS IT TRUE OR FALSE? NEVERTHELESS, IT SAYS IN ” DEI VERBUM ” THE TEACHING OFFICE OF THE CHURCH (FR. PACWA:) SO THE SCRIPTURE IS REVEALED BY GOD . FOR THAT IS THE BASIS FOR CHRISTIAN MORALITY. AND WE USED THOMAS AQUINAS AND ST. AUGUSTINE AND ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM AND OTHERS, IT AS THE THEOLOGIANS WHO HELP US TO MAKE SENSE OF THIS WOULD BE BLEAK BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE AUGUSTINIAN ORDER, MR. DICK. YOU HAVE A CHOICE. WHAT TO DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT THIS PICKING AND CHOOSING WHICH COMMANDMENTS YOU LIKE AND DO NOT LIKE. ALL OF US TO BELONG TO HAVE COMMANDMENTS WOULD NOT LIKE TO KEEP. THE SHOT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY IS A PROBLEM FOR SOME PEOPLE DOUBT SHALT NOT KILL IS ANOTHER PROBLEM FOR OTHERS. THE SHOT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS IS A PROBLEM FOR OTHERS. ALL OF US HAVE PROBLEMS WITH A LOT OF THE COMMANDMENTS AND THE VIRTUES AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO GROW IN BUT THE ULTIMATE REALITY IS WE MUST CONFORM TO WHAT GOD HAS GIVEN TO US. THE MAGISTERIUM HAS THE DUTY TO STATE THAT SOME TRANS OF THEOLOGICAL THINKING AND CERTAIN PHILOSOPHICAL AFFIRMATIONS ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH REVEALED TRUTH OF REVELATION. YOU CANNOT FOLLOW IN OTHER WORDS THE MAGISTERIUM WILL JUDGE THE PHILOSOPHY AND ITS RESULTS BY SCRIPTURE. IS IT TRUE? OR TRUE AGAIN IT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE ISSUE. FOR THIS REASON THAT WE SEEK IN THE FIRST VATICAN COUNCIL IN THE DOCUMENT KNOWN AS ” DEI FILIUS “, THE SON OF GOD, (FR. PACWA:) NAMELY SCIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE (FR. PACWA:) THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOK FORWARD TO IS THAT KNOWLEDGE IS GOING TO LEAD US TO GOD INCLUDING SCIENCE. THAT IS WHY SO MANY PRIEST AND MONKS AND NUNS HAVE BECOME WONDERFUL SCIENTIST. BUT THERE IS A PATRON SAINT FOR SCIENTIST NAMELY SAID DELBERT THE GREAT THE TEACHER OF THOMAS AQUINAS. ST. ALBERT THE GREAT. THE GREAT TEACHER ST. THOMAS AQUINAS. HE GOES ON TO SAY (FR. PACWA:) FOR INSTANCE YOU STUDY BIOLOGY BY LOOKING AT ORGANISMS. THAT IS SOMETHING YOU DO YOU STUDY CHEMISTRY YOU LOOKIT CHEMICALS PHYSICS AND DOING EXPERIMENTS. HOWEVER THE CHURCH TAKES PARTICULAR CARE AND THAT THEY DO NOT BECOME INFECTED WITH ERRORS CONFLICTING WITH DIVINE TEACHING OR GOING BEYOND THE PROPER LIMITS. (FR. PACWA:) THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SEE. SOMETIMES SIDE TO SAY SCIENCE DISPROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD . NO IT DID NOT AS A MATTER OF FACT WHAT YOU WILL SEE A GREAT CHRISTIAN SCIENTISTS SUCH AS ANTHONY RUES THE WHO HAS BEEN ON MY PROGRAM AND FATHER SPITZER AND MANY OTHERS HAVE DONE A SHOW THAT SCIENCE SHOWS US THE MUST BE A GOD. GIVES AS EVIDENCE FOR A DAUGHTER WHO IS INTELLIGENT AND THE BEGINNING OF EVERYTHING. BUT THEY WILL TRY TO SAY ALL SORTS OF THINGS AND MAKE ALL SORTS OF CLAIMS THAT WHEN YOU CONTINUE TO USE SCIENCE, YOU FIND OUT THAT THE CLAIM IS NOT TRUE. AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SEE CLAIMS, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEWS, WILL SCIENCE JUST PROVE THAT JESUS NEVER EXISTED. WE’LL WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THINGS IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE SHOW. NO IT DID NOT. IT DID NOT DO THAT. THE MORE YOU STUDY IT AND REALIZE THERE SAYING MORE THAN SCIENCE GAVE EVIDENCE FOR BUT WHEN YOU KEEP LOOKING AT SCIENCE AND ONE MORE DEEPLY YOU FIND THERE’S A WONDERFUL EVIDENCE THAT POINTS NOT ONLY TO GOD’S EXISTENCE, BUT TO GOD’S MAJESTY. THAT IS WHAT WE LOOK TO FIND. WE’RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND COME BACK AND A COUPLE OF MINUTES AND DEAL WITH YOUR QUESTIONS. THE STUDIO AUDIENCE AND EMAILS SO PLEASE STAY WITH US. (APPLAUSE) (THRESHOLD OF HOPE THEME MUSIC ) (THRESHOLD OF HOPE THEME MUSIC ) (APPLAUSE ) THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FIRST OF ALL WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO COME JOIN US HERE. YOU MAKE A PILGRIMAGE TO EWTN. WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU. CONTACT OUR PILGRIMAGE DEPARTMENT FOR INFORMATION ABOUT SCHEDULING A MASSES AND PROGRAMS. TO BE IN THE AUDIENCE AND TOURS OF THE STUDIO. AN INSTRUCTION OF HOW TO GET UP TOCALL THE PILGRIMAGE DEPT. FOR INFORMATION: 205-271-2966 OR GO TO THE EWTN WEBSITE [ AND SELECT “VISIT US” TAB] [TO FIND OUT MASS TIMES FOR TELEVISED MASS IN IRONDALE AND MASS TIMES UP AT THE SHRINE IN HANCEVILLE, AL; LIVE SHOW AUDIENCE; TOURS OF EWTN; PLACES TO STAY AND EAT ] ALL RIGHT LET US START OFF WITH A PHONE CALL. HELLO CELESTE. (CALLER : ) YES FATHER THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE CALL. (FR. PACWA:) YOU’RE WELCOME (CALLER : ) 01 TO SAYING I AM SO DISHEARTENED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH “GAY” UNIONS FEARED OF WILL NOT SAYING “GAY” MARRIAGE BECAUSE IT IS NOT A MARRIAGE… THE MEDIA PORTRAYAL. THIS IS GOD’S WILL AND THESE PEOPLE ARE COURAGEOUS. HOW DO WE EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE THAT THIS IS EVIL AND TO OUR GRANDCHILDREN TO TELL THEM THIS IS NOT NORMAL? (FR. PACWA:) A COUPLE OF THINGS. IT WILL DEPEND UPON THE AGE OF THE CHILDREN YOU WERE SPEAKING TO BECAUSE SOME OF THIS IS NOT FOR LITTLE CHILDREN. CHILDREN LITTLE CHILDREN’S CONSUMPTION. IT TAKES MATURITY TO DEAL WITH. SECOND, WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS BECOME BETTER INFORMED THAN MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA. BELIEVE ME THAT IS NOT SO DIFFICULT. FOR INSTANCE ONE OF THE THINGS RIGHT NOW THERE IS BIG NEWS ABOUT TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE. THIS IS NOW TAKING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MORE NEWS TIME, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF ONE INDIVIDUAL OR ANOTHER BUT IN GENERAL IT HAS BECOME A NEW CAUSE BECAUSE THEY SAY WE HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE TO AGREE WITH US ABOUT SAME-SEX UNIONS AND LEGALIZING IT. MOST PEOPLE ARE GREET ON THAT WHICH IS A BIG CHANGE SINCE THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. YOU SEE THE PRESIDENT CHANGED. HE CAME OUT SAYING THAT MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN. RIGHT THAT IS HOW HE CAMPAIGNED IN 2008 BUT BY 2012 HE CHANGED HIS MIND. HILLARY CLINTON SAID THIS IS THE BEDROCK OF MY BELIEF THAT MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN. WELL HER BEDROCK CHANGED INTO QUICKSAND AND IN 2013 SHE CHANGED HER MIND AND BECAME IN FAVOR OF IT. THEY ARE FOLLOWING I SUSPECT POLLING. BUT THERE ALSO CHANGING ATTITUDES. SO YOU SAY TO I JUST GO BY POLITICIANS AND POLLING , POLLING DO I LOOK AT THE HARD-CORE EVIDENCE? HIS NAME SLIPS MY MIND RIGHT NOW BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY FIND IT ON THE INTERNET THERE’S A MEDICAL DOCTOR WHO HAD BEGUN A LOT OF THE TRANSGENDERED OPERATIONS. HE STARTED THE SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS. HE HAS DONE THE RESEARCH AND HE HAS KEPT UP WITH THE PATIENCE TO SEE HOW THEY FARE. HE WROTE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT THE SUICIDE RAID RATE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAD A SEX CHANGE OPERATION IS AN ENORMOUSLY HIGHER THAN THE REGULAR POPULATION. MANY TIMES MORE SUICIDES PERCENTAGE WISE NOT JUST IN TERMS, TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE ARE VERY TINY MINORITY, HOMOSEXUALS ARE MAYBE 2 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION. THE OLD FIGURE YOU MAY HAVE HEARD. SO WE HAVE TO DO OUR RESEARCH ON THESE THINGS TO. USED TO HEAR 10 PERCENT. IT IS NOT 10%! THAT WAS FALSE DATA BASED ON AN ALFRED I FORGET HIS NAME, ALFRED KINSEY, IN THE KINSEY REPORT, WHERE HE USED A VERY SKEWED THE DATA. WITHIN HIS OWN BOOK. OTHER SCIENTISTS DISMISSED HIM AT THE TIME BUT THE DID NOT EXPOSE THEM AS THEY SHOULD HAVE. WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE IS CALLED THE FBI TO GET A BATTERING RAM AND BREAK DOWN THE DOORS AND THAT THE RECORD BECAUSE THERE WERE ABOUT 400 CHILDREN WHO HAD BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED DURING THE RESEARCH AND IT IS IN THE BOOK. YOU SAY WHO DID THIS? WHERE IS THE PERSON THE PERPETRATOR? ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE DISCOVERED BUT THE POINT BEING 2 PERCENT OF THE COUNTRY HAS SAME- SEX ATTRACTION AND A VERY TINY GROUP HAD SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS BUT AMONG A TINY GROUP, THERE’S A HIGH RATE OF SUICIDE AND YOU HAVE TO SAVE WHAT IS GOING ON?, THE? SEEING THAT THIS IS NOT A GOOD RESULT THE DOCTOR SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT A GOOD RESULT OF HIS WORK NOW SAYS THEY HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS THAT CANNOT BE SOLVED BY ASEXUAL CHANGE. HE IS SPOKEN OUT. BASED ON SCIENCE. THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO PRESENT. THE DATA. YOU HAVE TO LOOK THESE THINGS UP AND CHECK INTO THEM. THE DATA IS AVAILABLE. TO RESEARCH ON A WIDE VARIETY OF OTHER ISSUES AND THIS. IF YOU WISH ONE BOOK TO BEGIN WITH FOR RESEARCH ON SAME-SEX UNIONS IS DALE O’LEARY IS BOOK ” ONE MAN ONE WOMAN WROTE A BELIEVE YOU CAN GET THAT FROM THE RELIGIOUS CATALOG. IT IS VERY WELL DONE. IT PULLS TOGETHER A LOT OF THE SOCIOLOGICAL RESEARCH AND TAKING A LOOK AT HOW THESE RELATIONSHIPS WORK OUT AND WHAT IS GOING ON AND HOW DOES IT AFFECT LIFE EXPECTANCY? IT REDUCES LIFE EXPECTANCY BUT 30 YEARS. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN UNDERSTAND. IT IS NOT ABOUT BEING. POLITICALLY BEING HERE IS A REALITY OF A 30 YEAR DECREASE IN LIFE EXPECTANCY. REMEMBER HOW THINGS CHANGED FOR SMOKERS. THAT IS A TENURE DECREASE IN LIFE EXPECTANCY. PEOPLE WITH THE SAME SEX ATTRACTION HAVE A 33 YEAR DECREASE IN LIFE EXPECTANCY SO THAT IS VERY SERIOUS. AND IT MUST BE LOOKED AT AND THAT IS WHERE WE BEGIN AND WE HAVE TO ASK THE OTHER QUESTIONS WHY THESE PROBLEMS EXIST? THAT IS. THE NEXT IS WHAT IS GOING ON? IS IT THAT SOCIETY DOES NOT LIKE THEM AND HARASS THEM OR IS THERE SOMETHING INTERNAL WITH THE AND THAT MENTALITY? THAT IS THE QUESTION MUST BE ASKED NEXT. AND IT WILL TAKE MORE NEXT IT IS JUST NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT. (FR. PACWA:) WHERE ARE YOU FROM? ( AUDIENCE 🙂 FLORIDA (FR. PACWA:) COULD HAVE YOU. WELCOME. (FR. PACWA:) WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? ( AUDIENCE 🙂 WE’RE IN THE 50TH YEAR OF VATICAN 2. WHY HAS THERE NOT BEEN A GREATER EMPHASIS ON THE GULF FAITH FORMATION? (FR. PACWA:) I DO NOT KNOW WHY THERE’S NOT BEEN AN EMPHASIS ON ADULT FAITH FORMATION. I WOULD ADD AT ST. PHILIP’S CHURCH IN TENNESSEE IN THE DIOCESE OF NATIONAL, I FOUND THE PASTOR HAD 400 ADULTS IN ADULT EDUCATION EVERY SUNDAY. NOW HE WORKED HARD TO MAKE IT WORK. HE DID TREMENDOUS EFFORTS TO GET GOOD TEACHERS AND TO PREPARE THEM BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES. YOU HAVE TO GET PEOPLE WHO WERE WILLING TO TEACH AND PEOPLE WILLING TO LEARN AND STUDY. I KNOW WHAT ARE THE CATHEDRAL ONE OF THE DEFENSE GETS YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS HE DOES IS GET AND I JUST SPOKE OF OUR CATHEDRAL JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND I DO ADULT EDUCATION AROUND THE COUNTRY AND IN FACT THAT IS WHAT WE DO HERE AT EWTN THIS IS AN ADULT EDUCATION. WE HAVE KIDS PROGRAMMING ALSO BUT WE FIND A LOT OF PEOPLE A LOT OF PARENTS IN THEIR ’30’S AND ’40’S ARE WATCHING THE SHOWS BECAUSE THEY DID NOT GET THAT THEY DID NOT GET CHILD EDUCATION AND THEY DO NOT GET ADULT EDUCATION SO THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO DO BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE IT IN THE PARISHES AS WELL. ALSO YOU DO SEE A LOT MORE BIBLE STUDIES GOING ON. CATHOLIC SCRIPTURE STEADY. THAT IS ONE. I DID A SHOW ON THAT AND A NUMBER OF OTHERS. THEY’RE GOOD THINGS GOING ON WE JUST NEED MORE OF IT SO I EXPECT YOU TO GET SOMETHING STARTED IN YOUR PARISH DOWN IN FLORIDA. OK? WHEN YOU COMPLAIN THE SHOW WE EXPECT YOU TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT, WE HAVE ANOTHER CALLER. (CALLER : ) HELLO (FR. PACWA:) WHERE ARE YOU FROM? (CALLER : ) OR AGAIN (FR. PACWA:) I LOVE OREGON. (FR. PACWA:) WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? (CALLER : ) WE SAW ON EWTN NEWS LAST NIGHT, SYNOD ON THE FAMILY, TALKING TO THE BISHOPS ABOUT IT, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE OR UNIONS AND THE BISHOPS WERE NOT SPEAKING UP AND SAYING”NO”NOT IF THE BISHOPS ARE NOT SAYING NO IS THE POPE HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXCOMMUNICATE THEM? (FR. PACWA:) YOU’RE GETTING INTO VERY SPECIFIC ASPECTS OF LAW. IF THEY ARE TEACHING CONTRARY TO THE CHURCH, YES THE PULP AND EXCOMMUNICATE THEM AND THEY WOULD NOT BE THE FIRST BISHOPS TO BE EXCOMMUNICATED. IF THEY ARE SIMPLY IGNORING IT, THAT IS NOT THE NEXT COMMUNICATION ISSUE. TO BE EXCOMMUNICATED YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC DOCTRINE THAT YOU TEACH THAT IS CONTRARY TO THE CHURCH. OK? BUT IF YOU JUST IGNORE IT OR DO NOT TEACH IT, YOUR SILENCE WILL GET YOU IN TROUBLE WITH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO WARNED ABOUT SHEPHERDS WHO DO NOT DEFEND THE SHEEP AND WHO RUN WHEN THE WOLF COMES. BUT THEY WILL ANSWER TO HIM BUT THEY ARE SILENT, AND THE WILL NOT BE EXCOMMUNICATED FOR THAT. THAT. BY LONG, LAW, SILENCE IS CONSTRUED AS AN AGREEMENT WITH YOU SO LEGALLY YOU CONSTRUE AGREEMENT BY SILENCE, AND THE ACTIVELY TEACH CONTRARY TO THE CHURCH AND THEN OF COURSE THERE IS A PROCESS YOU DO NOT JUST SORT OF TAKE A WANT AND WADE OUT EXCOMMUNICATIONS, YOU CALL THE PERSON WHETHER A BISHOP OR PRIEST OR LAYPERSON IT DOES NOT MATTER. YOU CALL THE PERSON TO CORRECT THEIR TEACHING. THEN, IF THEY DO THEN THEN YOU CA IMPOSE THOSE PENALTIE THEN IF THEY DO NOT, THEN YOU CAN IMPOSE THOSE PENALTIES… ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT DISCIPLINE IS THAT THE CHURCH LIKES TO DO IT STEP BY STEP YOU DO NOT JUST SORT OF TAKE OUT THE NUCLEAR SOLUTION OF EXCOMMUNICATION. YOU TAKE IT STEP BY STEP. GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT JESUS TAUGHT. MATTHEW 18 IF YOUR BROTHER SIN GHOST HIM IF HE WILL NOT LISTEN TO BRING ANOTHER PERSON AND IF HE DOES NOT LISTEN TO THE TO YOU BRING HIM BEFORE THE CHURCH AND IF HE STILL DOES NOT LISTEN BEEN EXCOMMUNICATED SO YOU TAKE STEPS GRADUALLY AND YOU DID NOT LOOK FOR THAT BUT, YOU LOOK FOR THE CORRECTION OF THAT BUT THE SILENCE, WE NEED TO LOOK FOR MOTIVATION TO GET PEOPLE ESPECIALLY FOR BISHOPS AND PRIEST TO BE GOOD SHEPHERDS AND TAKE CARE OF THE SHEEP AND TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST ANY WOLFES. IT IS ALWAYS NECESSARY. (FR. PACWA:) WHERE ARE YOU FROM? ( AUDIENCE 🙂 FLORIDA (FR. PACWA:) ARE YOU WITH THIS MAN? HE’S YOUR HUSBAND? ( AUDIENCE 🙂 YES (FR. PACWA:) LOOK THEY’RE BOTH STILL SMILING ( AUDIENCE 🙂 HE DOES HAVE A VITAL STUDY WEEKLY IN OUR HOME. HE DOES HAVE A BIBLE STUDY WEEKLY IN OUR HOME. . (FR. PACWA:) HE IS NOT NEED ME TO MOTIVATE HIM. ( AUDIENCE 🙂 IT SEEMS LIKE A HOT TOPIC FIRST ONE PERSON WOULD TALK TO SOMEONE WHO MAY BE IN ERROR, YOU HAVE SCRIPTURAL SPOTS IN THE BIBLE? I THINK OF MEN WILL NOT BE LOVERS OF MEANT. (FR. PACWA:) RAHMAN’S CHAPTER ONE. ( AUDIENCE 🙂 ARE THERE OTHERS PEOPLE TO SAY DIRECTLY TO SAY TAKE A LOOK IN THE BIBLE? (FR. PACWA:) THERE A COUPLE OF ISSUES TO TAKE A LOOK AT. WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT SCRIPTURE, YOU HAVE IN THE OLD TESTAMENTS, SAME-SEX ATTRACTION WAS A VERY UNCOMMON EXPERIENCE AND HAD ATTACHED TO IT A DEATH PENALTY. THAT WAS VERY SERIOUS. THE CHURCH DOES NOT TEACH, IT IS NOT SOMETHING THE CHURCH PUTS INTO CANADA LAW WHERE IT IS TEACHING THAT YOU SHOULD EXECUTE PEOPLE. THAT WE SHOULD NOT. IN FACT ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO HAVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE, IS YOU HEAR A LOT OF CONCERN FROM PEOPLE WITH SAME- SEX ATTRACTION ABOUT BEING BULLIED. BECAUSE SOMEBODY MIGHT BEHAVE DIFFERENTLY FROM THE OTHER KIDS AND A BOY MIGHT BE MORE SENSITIVE AND MIGHT HAVE OF THE EMINENT QUALITIES AND MIGHT NOT FIT IN AND SOMETIMES THEY DO ENJOY SPORTS AND SOMETIMES NOT, A WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS. AND KIDS CAN BE MEAN AND BULLY THE OTHER KIDS AND THAT ADULTS HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO NOT EVER DEMONSTRATE SUCH BULLYING TECHNIQUES. BUT THEY NEVER COMMUNICATE ANYTHING EXCEPT THAT WE LOVE PERSONS. AND EVEN IF THEY SEEM DIFFERENT THAN WE ARE. YOU HAVE NO PERMISSION TO HATE THEM OR DISLIKE THEM. YOU CHERISH THEM. THEY HAVE GIFTS FROM GOD . THAT GOD WANTS THEM TO EXERCISE. THIS IS A VERY GOOD THING. AS EVERY HUMAN BEING DOES THAT IS PART OF BEING HUMAN TO HAVE GIVES DISTINCTIVE THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT ARE TO BE BROUGHT INTO THE WORLD. HOWEVER, WAS SET AT THE SAME TIME, NEITHER VIOLENCE NOR THREATS OF VIOLENCE OR BULLYING. OF OSTRACIZING. IF OR ANY OTHER SUCH BEHAVIOR IS ACCEPTABLE. WE CAN ALSO PRESENT, THERE A COUPLE OF ISSUES. BEHAVIOR ASSOCIATE WITH SAME-SEX ATTRACTION. THIS IS WHERE YOU GET INTO DEALING WITH NATURE. WHY IS THERE SO MUCH ILLNESS AND PHYSICAL DISORDER ASSOCIATED WITH IT. BECAUSE IT IS DOING THINGS CONTRARY TO THE WAY THE VARIOUS BASKETS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY AND IT TO BE EXPRESSED. AGAIN IT IS NOT PROPER TO GO INTO IT HERE BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE THINK THROUGH. THAT THIS SPIRIT SAME WAY THE SECOND. THESE BEHAVIORS. IT IS NOT ONLY THAT THERE IS COMMUNICATION OF DISEASES BY CONTACT WITH MULTIPLE PARTNERS BUT ALSO THE BEHAVIOR’S THEMSELVES BECOME HARMFUL. AGAIN A GREAT BOOK IF YOU WANT A GREAT RESOURCE ABOUT THAT ASPECT IS A BOOK BY DR. RICHARD PRETZEL. ” SEXUAL WISDOM “. THIS IS ABOUT THE PROBLEMS WE SEE IN OVER SEXUALIZE SOCIETY. THESE ISSUES ARE A PROBLEM A SERIOUS PROBLEM FOR HETEROSEXUAL AS WELL AS HOMOSEXUAL PEOPLE. THIS IS A NATIONWIDE DIFFICULTY. IT IS A SERIES OF DIFFICULTIES. WHAT DR. WETZEL DOES. I HAVE NO IDEA FROM HIS BOOK WHETHER HE IS A BELIEVER OR NOT I HAVE NO IDEA, BUT THE SIMPLY PRESENTS THE EVIDENCE OF SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH ON LIVE THERE IS SO MUCH DISORDER IN OUR CITING AS A RESULT OF SEXUAL MISBEHAVIOR. WHETHER IT BE UNWED MOTHERHOOD OR THE WIDESPREAD OF SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASES OR THE INCREASE OF THE NUMBER OF DISEASES. BEFORE 1970 THERE WERE BASICALLY TO BUT TODAY THERE WELL OVER 40. THIS IS NOT ONLY THE INCREASE OF PEOPLE HAVING DISEASES BUT THE INCREASE OF DISEASES. IT IS PANDEMIC. PANDEMIC. ACROSS THE COUNTRY 20 PERCENT OF ADULTS ARE INFECTED. WITH SOME DISEASE OR ANOTHER. THIS IS SERIOUS. THESE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO BRING OUT AS SOME OF THE DAY THAT TO SAY WHY IS THIS? IS IT AGAIN, IS IT SOMETHING TO DO WITH CITED JUST NOT EXCEPTING IT? NOPE. IT HAS TO DO WITH BEHAVIORS. THE CAUSE PROBLEMS. AGAIN YOU TAKE THE NEXT QUESTION, WHY THE THOSE BEHAVIOR IS WHETHER HETEROSEXUAL OR HOMOSEXUAL WHY THOSE BEHAVIORS OF WIDESPREAD SEXUAL PROMISCUITY LEAD TO THESE PROBLEMS WHEREAS A COUPLE WHO ENTERS INTO MARRIAGE WITH CHASTITY AND LIVES THE CHASTITY APPROPRIATE TO MARRIAGE AND ARE FAITHFUL TO EACH OTHER ARE NOT IN DANGER? THAT IS THE REALITY. THEY DO NOT HAVE THOSE RISKS. IT WOULD INDICATE TO ME THAT GOD IS TELLING US NOT TO PLAY WITH MATCHES BECAUSE YOU GET BURNED BUT TO FALL THE WAY HE HAS ESTABLISHED WE DO NOT EAT GROUND UP GLASS BECAUSE IT WILL KILL YOU. YOUR STOMACH IS NOT MADE FOR GROUND UP CLASS AND YOU CANNOT YOU PARABLES. CHICKENS CAN’T BECAUSE THEY HAVE GIZZARD BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A GIZZARD. THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO IT AND TEACH OTHERS DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHENEVER ANOTHER CALLER. HELLO. AND (CALLER : ) (FR. PACWA:) WHERE ARE YOU FROM? (CALLER : ) MICHIGAN (FR. PACWA:) WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? (CALLER : ) THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL ID YOU EXPLAIN THAT TRINITY? (FR. PACWA:) WHAT IS THE DIFFICULTY (CALLER : ) DR. SCOTT HAHAN SAID … JOHN CHAPTER 14 OF A HOLY SPIRIT HE. (FR. PACWA:) THAT HELPS ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN. FOR INSTANCE I DO NOT KNOW. I ASSUME YOU’RE CHALDEAN. (CALLER : ) (FR. PACWA:) I DO NOT KNOW YOUR DIALECT OF COUNTY AND CERTAINLY IN HEBREW THERE IS A CATEGORY OF NOUNS THAT CAN BE EITHER MASCULINE OR FEMININE. THE WORD — IS AN EXAMPLE. IT CAN BE CONSTRUED AS A FEMININE NOUNS OR A MASCULINE NOUNS. DEPENDING. YOU CAN ONLY TELL BY THE CONTEXT BECAUSE AS YOU WOULD KNOW THE VERBS CAN BE MASCULINE OR FEMININE AND OF COURSE THE PARTICIPLES AND ADJECTIVES ARE MASCULINE OR FEMININE. IN SOME PLACES THE–IS FEMININE LIKE IN GENESIS CHAPTER ONE.– — — THAT THE SPIRIT OF GOD HOVERS OVER THE WATER USING A FEMININE PARTICIPLE. WHEREAS IN PSALM 51 IS BOTH. WHEN SPEAKING ABOUT THE HUMAN SPIRIT, THEY USE THE FEMININE NOUNS. WHEN SPEAKING ABOUT GOD’S HOLY SPIRIT THEY USE THE MASCULINE. EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT SPELLED DIFFERENTLY. PUT YOUR– EXCUSE ME. — INSIDE OF ME. . WHEN HE SPEAKS ABOUT MY SPIRIT IT IS— A WILLING SPIRIT. USING THE FEMININE. THE HUMAN SPIRIT THIS FAMINE AND GOD’S SPIRIT IS MASCULINE. AS YOU MENTIONED IN JOHN’S GOSPEL THE WORD– SPIRIT IS NEW TO HER. BUT WHEN JESUS SPEAKS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT USING A PRONOUN HE ALWAYS USES THE PRONOUN HE. HE. ONE OF THE ISSUES IS OF COURSE IN GOD THERE IS NOT TRUE GENDER DIFFERENTIATION BUT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IN RELIGIONS WHERE GOD IS GENDER’S PACIFIC AND MASCULINE AND FEMININE DEITY IS THERE ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS IN THE TRINITY DOES NOT HAVE THIS THAT IS NOT WHAT IT IS ABOUT. WHAT WE ARE ABOUT IS THAT WE’RE OUT OF TIME. . WE ARE OUT OF TIME. MAY GOD BLESS YOU. PRIEST: IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. R. AMEN. REMEMBER WE NEED YOUR HELP SO WE CAN PAY OUR BILLS. REMEMBER: “KEEP US BETWEEN YOUR GAS AND ELECTRIC BILL” (APPLAUSE ) (THRESHOLD OF HOPE THEME MUSIC)

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