The World’s Most Controversial K-Pop Group

The World’s Most Controversial K-Pop Group


The first time you watch k-pop you’re immediately hooked on it,
addicted to it. Singing, dance, acting, fashion immediately thought have to do this, I have to be a part of this k-pop. If you guys wouldn’t mind
introducing yourself Let’s do our… [inaudible] Hello! The criticism that the expedition got was about ownership of k-pop. They can’t because they’re white,
they can’t because they’re Americans. Kimchi [Cheese]!
One, two, three! Kimchi! He says “I don’t want white people
in my kpop” isn’t kpop Isn’t K-pop Korean? white dudes trying to break into White dudes trying to break into Korean pop music,
is fucking bullshit. You were telling me earlier that you
guys got death threats in the beginning? If people are reacting this strongly
that maybe this is something more than what I thought it was or where it where it could go. When you look at kpop
there’s nothing that’s traditionally Korean in it. To certain people when they see us We understand that that
is still surprising. I understand every single person
that had criticisim. We live here in Korea, We speak Korean working with the same producer same teams who create other k-pop groups you’re kind of thinking like how could it not be
considered K-Pop. I’m here in Seoul South Korea to meet
EXP edition The world’s first non
Korean K-Pop group It’s made up of four members Sime, who’s Croatian American, Hunter, who’s from New York, Frankie, who’s from Rhode Island and Koki who’s half Japanese,
half German raised in Texas. So with their first album
in the tank and their lives fully
relocated to Seoul. I’m here to find out if a group of foreigners can actually make it
in the K-Pop industry What up!
– Whats up dude! Welcome.
– How’s it going? Good, good. Come in.
Take your shoes off when you enter. This is like the place you guys have been in since you got here. This is a castle. The castle, yeah. Technically they have a bigger
room Sime and Koki So we do rock-paper-scissors to see
who will get the bigger room -At a restaurant, right?
– Yeah. We like our rooms. growing up I did a lot of musical theater in elementary school,
middle school, high school I always loved to sing. I was born and raised in Croatia and I decided to just go to the States for one year as a
foreign exchange student That’s where I saw a musical theater for a very first time,
I fell in love with it and so I decided to stay I was just doing probably similar to the guys stories. Acting, modeling, also side jobs you know just for money,
catering jobs. Growing up in the
States you’re never like “Oh, like I’m gonna
become a pop star”. Because like, how do you do that? Then once I joined the EXP edition It kind of… renewed my…
I guess like vigor To, to like think
like this is possible. How do you use this term? While doing something.
– While doing something. That’s right. We us it when it has
the same subject. That’s right. We have to use it under
the same subject. Koki, do you want to make
a sentence? While I was studying, I
was watching TV. We want to be a part of
the K-Pop industry and we are here where it all started. So, in order to do that,
you have to know the language Right.
– You have to know the culture, you have to be a part of it. I think it’s still a new
concept to a lot of people. But, we’re just honored to be
a small part of it. You know?
– Yeah. That’s my baby. Let’s say that in Korean. Today is a special day! Teacher’s day! Teacher’s grace is so high. Oh, do you know this song? It is getting higher as looking up Thank you. Ah, it should be rewarded. our teacher’s grace. -We love you!
– Thank you The group was started in
2015 by Bora Kim. A Korean woman who wanted to study what makes K-pop K-pop as a part of an art project at Columbia University. She called the group EXP edition,
EXP being for experiment filled it with non Koreans and raised
$30,000 on Kickstarter. Obviously, I had no experience in running
an entertainment company So, I was reading a lot of academic texts about it and then It really made me think
on what K-pop can be to other people. We’re hoping to continue moving
forward and stay focused on our main goal to create
and share great K-Pop. We prepared an ad and surprisingly so many
people applied. And right about that time
we got a lot of media attention. – So when you guys first debuted how are you like received? just like an explosion of
attention basically. Very mixed reactions that we got. Anywhere by people being fascinated
by the idea to just like outright hitting it. I mean you were telling me that you guys got death threats at the beginning? My sister texted me like “what are these? Are these jokes?” These comments on instagram. I’m like yeah just don’t
pay attention to it. I guess thinking back at it. It like makes me like
question myself. Was I just being ignorant? By just thinking that we weren’t
gonna get… I remember initially
thinking like Wow this… If people are reacting
this strongly then Then maybe this is something
more than what I thought it was and where,
where it could go Because in Korea K-pop is no joke. It’s a five billion dollar industry. There are There are over 100 groups
signed to major labels and dozens of Idol
training schools, But Idol training is
notoriously tough and kids practice 12 hours
a day for upwards of 10 years hoping to
become k-pops next big star. EXP edition
has faced criticism for seemingly bypassing
that system and I wanted to know how that
might affect their success. So I sat
down with Leah Kim One of the best known dance choreographers in K-pop. Why is the training to become a K-Pop idol so intense? Entertainment companies want to see
perfectly well knit choreography. So, the training is hard and intense. Can K-Pop idols be made or
do they have to be born? The training system is so
good in Korea. A K-pop company can take your skills that require improvement to the next level. So, I can say, K-Pop
idols can be made. Only 20-30 percent of trainees can
make it to the agency auditions. It’s such a tough and difficult process that I give a lot of respect to people that became K-pop idols. Do you think k-pop idols can
come from outside of that system? Without K-pop’s inside knowledge, if an individual who comes from outside tries to get over that system, I cannot say it’s impossible,but
it wouldbe really hard. Because of the training system fans of K-Pop expect their idols to be perfect – This is ti tikka TV David we are with
EXP Edition! Danny and David Kim our popular Korean youtubers whose K-Pop reaction videos have been viewed over
37 million times. They first reviewed EXP Edition two years ago about their
music video ‘Feel like this’. I’m not saying, i’m not saying
they’re good at any level. Like they’re pretty bad. I’ll agree with that. They’re pretty bad. When you guys were first
exposed to EXP Edition, what was your reaction to foreigners
getting involved with K-Pop? I think it’s like, you know when
Vanilla Ice first came out. You know? They’re not like totally K-Pop
because musicly they sounded very Popish, they sounded like American pop right. Visually, they kind of like
imitated or they were wearing like K-Pop style makeup. And it was very weird for me. And also their pronunciation.
This is very important for Korean people who
listen to the music If your pronunciation is weird you get this weird
feeling, you get this like, you get off. ‘Ung’ is to talk to to strongly. Yeah. That was better. Were you guys even aware that
they were like still around? No, no I was pretty sure that… I thought it was a one-off thing. Yeah, I thought it was an experiment yeah because the killing EXP Edition
and also I saw the news that
it was like a thesis project so it’s like,
okay, this is like a one-off thing. You didn’t take it seriously?
– No, no. They’ve been trying to like get on
TV shows and like make that run. But yeah,
it’s funny you know your guys business
K-Pop you weren’t even aware they were like still around. I wanted to see if the group has been able to build a Korean fan base so I went to a performance they were giving at a Korean Buddhist temple. Please welcome EXP Edition
with a big round of applause. How did it make you feel to see foreigners forming a K-Pop group. In the beginning, I doubted whether a
foreign group can sign K-Pop or not, but I am now very positive about it since it’s the result of the globalization of K-Pop. I was supposed to be somewhere else, but I like them so much that I am here now. Their pronunciation is
not that accurate. but the delivery of their
emotion was very good. So, I thought that a group might
really love our country’s K-Pop. and that’s how I became
a fan of EXP edition. All done! I will see you tomorrow! Seeing the guys with their fans step
out of all of their Western selves and step into this very Korean self, that they’ve had to manufacture
to appeal to a brand new audience. It does sort of flirt with
the line of cultural appropriation and then
just straight out respect. And to be
honest I really wasn’t expecting the Korean fans to be so positive towards them. The way that you guys have
physically transformed yourself or the way that you guys have learned aesthetic that goes along with K-Pop does that offend you at all? No, absolutely not. When people look at us and say like we’re culturally
appropriating in a way it does confuse me once people realize that we do love and respect Korean culture and K-Pop as an industry that it’s nothing like
cultural appropriation. It’s interestingly enough that most of this sort of like that type of criticism comes from non-Korean
K-Pop fandom. Mostly english-speaking
actually. I’m gonna Google K-Pop
definition see what the world Ohhhh, nice thing is like
it isn’t K-pop… Korean… It hurts to watch, right? yeah This is much closer to Europe pop
– Closer to Europe on trashed Yeah, I don’t like this. Yeah, they are a gimic group.
I don’t think, yeah… This kind of experiment it’s mocking
the K-Pop culture and I find that
part disrespectful. White dudes trying to break into
Korean pop music to appeal to a Korean
audience as a social experiment is f*king bullshit. Hello! The criticisim EXP Expedition got was
about ownership of K-Pop. So Kenny expedition call
themselves K-Pop. They can’t because they’re
not Korean, they can’t because they’re white, but in Korea
we don’t have the hate reaction. Korea has a totally different relationship toward cultural appropriation within K-Pop. When you actually look
at K-Pop there’s nothing that’s traditionally
Korean in it. for about forty years Korea was under Japanese occupation.
Their culture was wiped out. And they were cut off to the world with K-Pop Korea’s been able to take elements of Western
culture and make it their own and are happy to share
that with the world. But foreign k-pop fans, mainly
American, feel this need to protect K-Pop even though
it’s not really theirs to protect. I don’t want white people in my
fucking K-Pop. Stay in America. How do you react with these
types of reaction videos? This specific reaction video
we thought was really interesting. There’s definitely a sense of ownership K-Pop fans have over… Over K-Pop and it’s so
interesting because they bec…
they themselves act as if they’re an ambassador of K-Pop and so when they see something threatening it or they something that they
think is threatening it. They are very outrightly trying to protect it. But it’s exoticsizing and demeanor
and it’s orientalist you know this talk around race and political correctness. You really have to look at the
situation and a lot of people that know about us know very surface of it and make that
very quick judgement. How did ever registering that you had taken members
of the majority in America and you made
them minorities in Korea? Yeah, that was the weight
of this project. I wanted to hear from some of these more outspoken
foreign K-Pop fans so I invited a couple of them to talk about the route of their feelings towards the EXP edition. What was your collective first
impression of the EXP edition? Not killer.
– That was very nice. I thought they’re trolly. Everybody was taking them seriously
but I was like these guys are funny. You thought it was a mockery? Yeah, yeah, yeah. kpop is like a K-Pop is like a set of conventions
that’s why we like go to K-Pop for that. So when
they were doing this thing it’s like…
that’s not what we expected I mean the philosophy of life is you have to be better
you have to be different and so they tried to hit up that we’re very different they’re like look how white we are ha right and everyone’s like okay but your skills aren’t where they need to be, your
production isn’t were it needs to be. Your songs aren’t where they need to be, So what are you doing? At first because it was like
his college creation that they were being
satirical and then they’re like ‘oh, people
actually want to see this.’ It’s funny though cause like when I first came in contact with the group it seemed like a
cash grab to me. But from what I’ve seen so far,
I think they are really trying to make
it as a K-Pop group. I think that anybody can break into the market. I don’t want to see it. I have my interest in watching it. Yeah, I mean was it because…
– Was it because they’re white? because they’re white?
Was that gonna be your question? No, no not yet but we can…
– Not yet? We can talk…
That was a question when can talk about about that right like was it because they were a majority why
it like mostly American group? No, it was just cuz it was criggy Because I mean when… But did that have to do with
their being white… Probably, I can’t really explain it to you it’s a weird thing and it’s funny cuz in the comments section to some of my videos I’ve had the exact same question like I just don’t want to see non-asians in K-pop and it’s like it’s not that it’s there’s
nothing to do with the race. It’s just I think it’s some people are sick and tired
of how Western culture pushes certain
things in your face, With music. I think there’s almost sort of like a natural protective is thing if they went over there and they tried and they sang in Korean,
they danced they did their thing,
but they acted more where they’re from, maybe
it will work little better and it wouldn’t seem
so cringy and fake. People would be like they’re
not even trying to be K-Pop. You kno?
Yes, they will if they can’t win no matter what they do
they’re going to be under the harshest spotlights. I think this is a type of
situation that a lot of artists have been in before it happened with jazz, it happened with hip-hop, when a
certain genre becomes so globally recognized it is only natural that more and more people
from different backgrounds are going to
become part of it. What do you want
out of this Experiment? As far as like the experiment part I think that is over like that experiment part ended a long time ago. Whether or not we are
successful enough to keep going that that’s more of like
the conversation… Oh my god! Whats that? A cowgirl? Oh my god she is getting so big! Whats new in Korea? We’ve had a few shows lately.. Um… Actually a really cool one yesterday
at a temple it was raining but it was a lot of fun and I think it went well
we made a bunch of new fans and… It’s like a big leap of faith coming out here right obviously making that decision kind of
putting your life on hold or leaving it behind at a certain point you guys
are in it for the long haul. That’s an understatement
I mean it’s just everything in our lives is kind of riding on this. Like if this… like god forbid the only thing this is fake wood. If it just stopped like I don’t even know what we would do we would just have to start kind of from the ground up again like and it’s hard to imagine just going back to auditioning and going back to you know catering you doubt yourself sometimes but we always try to
just stay positive and falsely mad. You know I have this big performance
coming up and I wish… I wish my parents could be
there you know I feel like they could understand me better and my desire
to keep going even when it seems like I shouldn’t. Describing me I guess the
place that the band is in now. That’s a good question. We are building
our fans of and we can feel it that it is slowly growing
but we need to get known more to the public we do have to be on like bigger TV shows and and that’s really hard to do. We’re inside KBS studios
because today’s Sime is performing on a competition singing show and these types of shows are wildly popular in Korea and it’s actually like a rite of passage for K-Pop groups. The thing is he’s actually gonna
be performing by himself on that stage and if he does well it could really elevate the status of the group it’s a lot of pressure
and it’s kind of like one of those make-it-or-break-it moments for EXP edition. And this stuff is all… What is this
like scheduling I’m guessing. This is a timeline of the date so the actual recording
starts at 6:15 and this show will be a
temple immortal songs’ is one of the most watched TV shows in Korea, so, Yes it is a big deal. And just talking about it like my heart starts racing. – Is it time? Almost. My kind of analysis of it all
isn’t necessarily like people were attacking you for as individuals I think they were more afraid of what you represented. It’s a very sensitive topic, it really is but I think it comes down to just
making sure that we’ve really come
across as someone who’s not being ignorant about this whole situation. We understand that to certain people
when they see us perform in Korean with a certain
aesthetic that is still surprising I think this has happened to every musical genre ever. We’re the face of it
so when people see us they’re gonna react specifically to us because of that Please wait inside and we will call you when it’s ready. I hope he wins.
– Yeah. I think you should come out now. That’s okay, it’s okay dude I mean you still you killed it. Are you okay? -That was like 5 votes?
Yeah 5 votes. Yeah. That’s life. Spending time with these guys and learning about their story has started to make me question how we define cultural appropriation
and why we are so quick to assign that term
to certain situations. Now I’ll admit that was my first thought when I heard
about EXP edition. But now, I feel like it was an unfair judgment especially if the majority culture in Korea is fine with them. I think sometimes in our attempt to protect certain things
we forget what we are actually trying
to defend. What are the things that you
want to make sure that the world knows about you
moving forward? People should know
that we live in Seoul all right our album is under the K-Pop genre on websites ya’ll. At the bottom of all of this
is like very simple and it could be very selfish and that is that we really do love what we do. The only thing that what we
can do in now is to make sure that we
present ourselves and our work in the most
respectful way possible. Oh shit! I just stopped and I he said one more?

100 Replies to “The World’s Most Controversial K-Pop Group”

  1. i get why people would dislike this but i don't mind non asians in kpop as long as they know what their doing, my problem with this group is that they don't. They have no talent like it's painful to watch them perform and performance is super important in kpop. Their music is shit too but i guess korean idols can do that too. their pronunciation is so bad like learn how to be fluent first. They skipped the system and went strait to controversy.

  2. It's not because of their skin tone or ethnicity, but rather because of their sharper features and how old they look. It makes them seem cringe.

  3. Nobody cares when there are so many celebrities either not from America or not American working in the US. But when it’s the other way around people make a huge fuss. We don’t call pop in the US “A-pop”, right? It’s music that happens to be in Korean. There’s nothing traditionally Korean about it. The only thing Korean about K-pop is that it’s sung in Korean. A lot of them aren’t even Korean and a lot of fans don’t even notice it. South Korea is a huge platform to work in for the music industry. It’s like people coming to America to pursue their dream as an actor. Moving to Seoul is now like people moving to New York or Los Angeles. Nobody makes a fuss about Camila Cabello, Mika Kunis, Justin Bieber, Shakira, or Shawn Mendes. What about foreign models or dancers moving to America to work? What if a half Korean wanted to become an idol but didn’t look Korean? Would you still be mad even tho they are Korean, but don’t look it? It shouldn’t matter your race.

  4. Would anyone care if someone from Asia auditioned for America’s Got Talent and got put into a girl or guy group by Simon Cowell? Probably not.

  5. ITS NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR NATIONALITY, TRUST ME WE WANT MORE OF THAT, BUT WE WANT FOREIGNERS WHO ARE TALENTED ENOUGH TO BE IDOLS, the kpop industry is much harsher than the western industries, if you can't live up to Korea's standards, then debut as a western artist, you're still going to sing and dance.

    Also, if you're going to actually debut as a foreigner, at least learn proper Korean and its pronunciation, that way you gain the respect of your target audience, KOREANS

  6. The only reason they are flopping is bc their songs flopped it's not good. if they can put out a bop they can get in cuz white privilege that's it kpop wants no black people in it but every single pop music is made only bc of A-pop if it wasn't for American music kpop wouldn't had happened and that's sad to say as a black person

  7. Kpop got birthed because of the boy groups of America.
    How are Americans mad at these guys while Koreans are having fun with them on here lmaooo

    Ahh America, always thinking they should "fix" stuff they dont like

  8. Kpop being Korean pop music like in the language not having to be Korean. I’ll be cheering them on if anyone hates them because they ain’t Korean then you gonna have to deal with me and we gonna have a massive debate

  9. But i think if they really success, it would impact alot to kpop. And it would be better looking for them to just look like foreign, not like putting makeup and stuff fighting !!!! >_<

  10. I think foreigners could make it big but these guys are just cringey and there talent isn’t up to standard of a k-idol and there look is kinda rough when in k-pop they have more of a soft look

  11. Kpop is:
    *Visual for people to idolise
    *Music for people to relate to
    *Language that transcends barriers and represents the pride of Korea that started it all
    *Fashion for marketing to younger audiences
    *Style that is authentic to the specific standards Korea has placed on its citizens
    *An experience only achieved through merciless hours of practice and willpower, sweat tears, heartache and patience.

    Kpop is:
    Unique not only because it falls within the genre of Korean pop music but it is also something tangible the Korean people have created as a way of being different to the western or outside world. It is beautiful because it is coveted by others yet unattainable most and once it becomes available the Korean public may feel that it can no longer remain as beautiful to them. Fear is what holds us back but fear can also be your greatest protector.

    Music should be ageless
    Timeless and fearless but kpop is not just music, it is a way of life to many people…and THAT cannot be re-manufactured simply with an idea and four talented men with good intentions.

  12. ….I'm half Chinese….and Mexican and I would still be able to be in a K-pop group (I look more Asian than Mexican) and….I don't think EXP edition would last any longer…tbh :////

  13. They look like men in their late 30's, and compared to other k-pop groups, they are not very good. I know it isn't fair to compare things, but literal rookies who debuted less than a week ago are doing better than them. That just isn't right.

  14. It's not that they are white, but it's because they're not Asian descent well not all of them one of them is, and another thing kpop idols can come from anywhere like America or Canada even Europe! But their visuals in their appearance make them not so K-pop and how they act and talk doesn't sound like a kpop idol, butsee I would be okay with a half white half Asian group who came from another country if they could pronounce right and make music that sounded more K-pop instead of America pop! , Thank you!

  15. Kpop means korean pop (language not race) so any person even if they are white or black can debut as a kpop star if they want

  16. I think that, in my own opinion, if EXP are mixed with Koreans as well, I think they could somewhat make it through for sure.

    Although, it is a little weird, considering KPop is Korean Pop and I don’t mind having Chinese/Japanese members mixed with other korean members, it’s alright I guess.

  17. Hold up but when there is some female idols that are not korean and American they can be idol like rlly

  18. I'm a half Japanese and I'm unreasonably annoyed by comments that Kpop is "mainly" influnced by Black American music. No, it's not. J pop gave birth to Kpop and the first Western influence to Kpop was from former Soviet union, that is east europeans in Asian continent.

  19. At the end of the day this is just people following their dreams, it really makes me sad how other people make fun of them, I wish them the best from south America 🙂

  20. what k-pop actually means is korean pop as in korean songs not korean songs sang by only koreans. duuhhh, epop is english pop yet zayn a muslim is a part of epop?

  21. one of the biggest issues is authenticity. thats why non-korean fans can smell thru bullshit. if they just owned up to the fact they are 30ish white dudes and let their real personalities shine.. they could possibly make it. (look at PSY). instead they try so hard to "fake it".. clothes, hairstyles and heart signs with hands will only get you so far.

  22. Christ give them a break! Where they come from shouldn't matter! The only things that should determine the success of any group are talent and drive to improve and excel.

  23. If Koki were just younger, had more years in training, and could improve on his dancing and his voice, I’m sure he could’ve been excepted because he’s half Japanese and he’s the only one with some visuals.

  24. Always gives me a warm feeling inside when other races show they can be just as fucking racist. The Koreans are only stealing western culture in any case. Pretty boys with floppy hair singing and dancing for screaming girls, sound familiar?

  25. I don’t get it. There are so many non Korean kpop stars but when they aren’t Asian, people get angry. People are saying that it’s disrespectful to Korean culture because they’re not Korean but what about those Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Taiwanese etc kpop stars. Cultural appropriation always gets brushed off so I don’t see why this shouldn’t be brushed off.

  26. so they have to look the part in order to be an idol? these comments got me fcked up. let them do them, they’re not doing anything wrong🙄🙄

  27. 1. If you really like kpop you would only care about the music not their visuals (Asian or not)
    2. When kpop idols sing in english you would be like OMGGGG THEIR VOICE IS SO KAWAII UWUWUWU
    3. But when foreigners sing in korean YOUR NOT KOREAN STOP SINGING KOREAN YOU KOREABOO
    4. When koreans talk not really good English you would be like ENGLISH MASTER OMO OMO SO CUTEEE
    5. But when Americans talk not really good korean "their korean isnt even that good they just want to be koreans KOREABOOS"
    6. When koreans try to look American it's okay? But when Americans try to look korean apparently it's not okay
    Shut up these people are trying and you aren't just sitting there hating on them behind the screen even if they look like 30 year old dads leave them alone plus kpop was inspired from American/ European pop dont get me wrong here I ADORE kpop and if I had the talent to sing dance and talk korean I would go for it

  28. You know what this is like being sort of racial and this is sad you shouldn't have to be Korean to do Kpop music will Eminem was it a different color and he did rap I mean only thing different about Korean music is it they're dancing and they sing hip hop rap in a different language there's no difference from hip hop in that people needs to get over their self about that these people here are working their hardest to do what they love not to be judged

  29. I just think that they are not ready, they need to do some studying about what k-pop sounds like and feels like

  30. Honestly I appreciate that they’re trying to make Kpop more diverse but they’re not great. Their pronunciation is bad they’re singing is bad and they’re dance moves are bad. If these kids are training twelve hours a day and foreign trainees are often only allowed to speak Korean and yet these (almost) 40 year old men are being taught by a teacher that speaks English to them??? As they said it’s really tough to make it in the industry and I think they shouldn’t use the fact that they’re foreign to be successful. People don’t hate them because they’re white but because they think they’re entitled to success and I get that there is white privilege in Korea but their mannerisms just seem so forced. When the dude told the interviewer to take off his shoes before he entered just seemed so unnatural to me. Ya so that’s basically it for now I might come back and edit. 🐸

  31. Racist and bigoted people exclude. You can't be a cowboy if you're black. You can't be a rapper unless you're black ( unless you're Eminem). You can't be a race car driver if you're a woman. You can't it's not your culture. Your not a man, your not white, black, a woman, etc, etc, etc. We are human and shouldn't exclude each other from doing things. We shouldn't refuse to share and exchange and include. This is how humanity grows. This is how we have innovation. We build on something that exists and bring something new to it. It grows, it can be added to modified and possibly improved upon. We limit our selves by excluding each other from doing things.

  32. It’s pretty obvious that some of the people in the comments are only obsessing over Koki’s looks because he’s Asian

  33. the fat white guy from mums basement defending other country stile music and whining about others ppl effort..fat troll.

  34. This makes no sense on cultural appropriations unless only Koreans can listen to K-pop music. Only Koreans can comment about K-pop music. Are we really going there? Welcome to Communism.

  35. Don't hate me but what happen if a group of black people trying to break into k-pop. Just want to know what everyone think. I heard that korean culture is pretty much racist and discriminatory.

  36. You see an amazing performance from someone like Taemin here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL7Sh4REC5k and then compare it to these impostors, and one has to wonder how the narrative of "they can't because they're white" is believed by anyone but Bora Kim

  37. as if the koreans didn’t rip their style off from the west to begin with, adding their own totalitarianism and racism in the process. soulless freaks.

  38. can we all just pretend that this kpop group is normal? currently my bias is frankie but that might change when they come up with new songs

  39. "they can't because they're white" no, thats some racist f*cks' opinions. LESS than 0.000001% of the crowd. Real tea? they can't because they're nowhere as good as the other idols.

  40. remember back when art and music's main focus was wisdom/perspective filled, cogently poignant novelty? now, it's just a product geared towards specific adherence to boorish mass accessibility.

  41. Westerners look very handsome with beards, but Korean people don't fit the bearded face with their "young" face. In contrast, Korean people look really cool with colorful hair and fancy clothes, but not for Westerners. So basically everyone can sing k-pop songs, but if they want to become an idol, do they fit the k-pop style or not?

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