Make-Unders: How’d You Get That Way? | The Oprah Winfrey Show | Oprah Winfrey Network

Make-Unders: How’d You Get That Way? | The Oprah Winfrey Show | Oprah Winfrey Network

MUSIC [AUDIENCE CHEERS] Today, all new, she’s been poufing, painting, inflating for over 20 years. How long does it take her to get ready? Superstar stylist Carson Kressley sets her free. Come on out. Her kids have waited their whole lives for this. Make-under wonders, a mother/daughter doozy. That is amazing. Please call the mustache police. Who are you? I love it. Then an overstuffed room. Our go-to guy. Nate’s got 24 hours. What does mama think? Next. WINFREY: So look around at these pictures of some of our most cherished viewers. We’ve got this mother/daughter duo from a few towns over. Mom is 34, and her baby girl is 16. And then there’s Wayne from Taylor, Michigan, who’s clearly a little stuck in the ’80s. And Cindygod loves teachers, but should she be wearing that to lead our children in the future? And Dawn. Oh, Dawn, Dawn, Dawn. How did Dawn, Wayne, and the rest of these folks get this way? Well, I know you all know somebody overdone, overdid, done up, too poufed, too painted. These folks don’t need a make-over. They really need a make-under, so we called in the big gun, who’s just so much fun and has tons of experience toning down the over- the-toppers. Come on out, Carson Kressley. [APPLAUSE] CARSON KRESSLEY: Hey, darling. You look so nice. WINFREY: Thank you. Mr. KRESSLEY: On a snowy day. WINFREY: Isn’t it? In Chicago. So today we’re going to have fun in the spirit of helping people look their best. Once we got a look at Dawn, a 44-year-old single mother of two… Mr. KRESSLEY: Yes. Mm-hmm. WINFREY: Mm-hmm. We knew there was a story underneath all that. DAWN: As a child, I would say that I was very much a girl next door. I was very shy. I was very reserved, not an outgoing girl at all. High school for me was really, really hard. I was told by teachers that I wasn’t going to make very much out of myself. It was a really sad, lonely time for me. I started to change my look when I was 21. And people started giving me attention. I started tanning. I started working out. I started to follow a diet, and starting to come into a different type of look. I would have to say that my look doesn’t match my inside as much as what a person might think, that I am a mother first and foremost. My kids hate how I look. I would really like for both my son and my daughter to be proud of me. WINFREY: Well, Carson hopped on a plane to Canadaor what he called the frozen tundra. This is also Chicago. It’s also the frozen tundra. Mr. KRESSLEY: It’s more frozen there, Oprah. WINFREY: Really? Mr. KRESSLEY: It was like, yeah, no, it waswe were, like, socked in. WINFREY: Really? Okay, so he got on a plane to knock on Dawn’s door. I love it when this happens. Take a look. Mr. KRESSLEY: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada in February. Really, Oprah? Anything for you. Let’s go meet Dawn. Dawn. DAWN: Oh, my god. Mr. KRESSLEY: How are you? Gosh, I was turning into a very stylish popsicle out there. Let me get a load of you. Yeah. It’s a little nipply in more ways than one. [LAUGHTER] DAWN: Well, let me take you upstairs in my bedroom. Mr. KRESSLEY: Oh, oh, my. I hardly even know you, butYou had implants, or is that your natural endowment? DAWN: They are naturally implants. Mr. KRESSLEY: Okay. They got really big with silicon. DAWN: Yes. WINFREY: And your hair, is it extensions? DAWN: It is extensions. Mr. KRESSLEY: Okay. Anything else that you’ve had done or… DAWN: Well, I’ve had my lips done, and I’ve had botox, and I have eyelash extensions. Mr. KRESSLEY: OkayI didn’t evenoh, my word. How long have you been doing this? DAWN: Oh, way too long. Like, 20over 20 years. Mr. KRESSLEY: Wow. And now you’re this person that you’re like, oh, my god, who am I? DAWN: Mm-hmm. DAWN: Fifteen. Mr. KRESSLEY: Would you want her to grow up and go through this same thing? DAWN: No. My daughter is beautiful. She’s perfect the way that she is. And I no, I wouldn’t want her to be attracting the wrong attention. Mr. KRESSLEY: So that’s what we should want for you, right? DAWN: Mm-hmm. I know. Mr. KRESSLEY: Okay. DAWN: I know. Mr. KRESSLEY: And we can do that. Come down here and sit with me, and we’ll talk shoes. Okay. Do you remember a specific moment where someone said, wow, you’re not attractive enough or you’re not good enough or whatever it was to really, like, you know, sink in and say, oh, god, I got to change the way I look because I’m not, you know, what people want. DAWN: Oh. Well, that would have been in high school. Mr. KRESSLEY: Mm-hmm. DAWN: You know, like, I can remember there was a guy that was talking to his friends, and we overheard them, and he said, you know, “Dawn’s a nice girl, but she’s too fat. I would never date her.” Mr. KRESSLEY: Wow. DAWN: And I still to this day remember that. To this day. Mr. KRESSLEY: Wow. DAWN: Mm-hmm. Mr. KRESSLEY: So, look in the mirror. DAWN: Mm-hmm. Mr. KRESSLEY: Tell me first what you see. DAWN: What do I see? Mr. KRESSLEY: Mm-hmm. DAWN: I see somebody that ishas a lot of makeup on. Mr. KRESSLEY: Mm-hmm. DAWN: And somebody that is pretty overdone. Yeah. That’s what I see. Not somebody that is really me. Mr. KRESSLEY: Mm-hmm. DAWN: Mm-hmm. Mr. KRESSLEY: And what do you think your kids see? DAWN: I think that my kids see I don’tsorry. Mr. KRESSLEY: That’s okay. It’s all right. DAWN: I don’t think that my kids are very happy with what they see, and they, you know, they see somebody that is supposed to be a role model for them, and they really would like just to have a mom just like everybody else’s mom. WINFREY: So, Carson, this is so interesting because everyI love this because addictions affect people in so many different ways, and you think that she has a beauty addiction. Mr. KRESSLEY: Yeah. I think if a little bit of beauty was good, she was going to do as much as she could to become accepted. And it, you know, it’s just like a food addiction or drugs or alcohol. You do that to, you know, fill that void, to make yourself feel better. WINFREY: Absolutely. Yes, which is what all addictions do. Mr. KRESSLEY: Right. WINFREY: So Carson then challenged Dawn to take it all off and to strip it all down. Mr. KRESSLEY: Right. WINFREY: Not an easy thing to do when you’ve had the same beauty routine. This is so interesting. As we started the show, I said to the audience, how long does it take her to get ready? Mr. KRESSLEY: It takes hours and hours. I asked her what her routine was like. She said she gets up around 6:00, and she’s done at 11:00. Now, I don’t do math, but that’s a long time. And that’s, you know, and the thing was, it was taking her away from her family, from her job, all those things, and it’s truly an addiction. WINFREY: All right, all right, so she’s done the same beauty routine for 20 years. Let’s take a look. Mr. KRESSLEY: Do you think this has kind of been a security blanket maybe? DAWN: Oh, I know that it has. I know that my hair has been the focal point. You know, there’s always that little girl in me that feels that she’s overweight, and I’ve always thought that if I had the hair, they’re going to look at the hair, and they’re not going to look at me. Mr. KRESSLEY: Wow. DAWN: So, that’s pretty scary. Mr. KRESSLEY: Yeah. DAWN: Mm-hmm. Mr. KRESSLEY: When you do get rid of it, think how liberating that’s going to be to not be hiding behind it. DAWN: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Mr. KRESSLEY: So, makeup removal time. DAWN: Yes. Mr. KRESSLEY: A little hot water, right? DAWN: Mm-hmm. I am really nervous, mm-hmm. Mr. KRESSLEY: Yeah? DAWN: Yeah. Mr. KRESSLEY: Okay. DAWN: Oh, my goodness. Mr. KRESSLEY: It’s the big unveiling. DAWN: Mm-hmm. Mr. KRESSLEY: I actually think you look better without all the makeup. DAWN: Taking all this off takes me back to when I was in high school. I’m that girl that’s in high school. Mr. KRESSLEY: Mm-hmm. DAWN: And that’s pretty scary. Mr. KRESSLEY: This is going to take a long time, right? Like a couple hours? DAWN: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Mr. KRESSLEY: Okay. I’m going to send in reinforcements. DAWN: Okay. HAIRDRESSER: We’re probably going to be here at least another three hours. Mr. KRESSLEY: Are you kidding me? DAWN: Okay. Mr. KRESSLEY: Okay. But before I go, here are the ground rules while I’m gone, until I see you in Chicago. DAWN: Okay. Mr. KRESSLEY: Okay. No makeup, foundation, cover-up, eye shadow, lipstick. No tanning bed. No bronzer. We’re going to remove the false eyelashes. No extensions in your hair. DAWN: Mm-hmm. Mr. KRESSLEY: And no outfits that show almost all of your boobs. DAWN: Okay. Mr. KRESSLEY: Okay? Are these nailsare these… DAWN: Oh, no, are you kidding me? Mr. KRESSLEY: Are they adhesive? Yeah, they are. We’re going to have to take those off as well. Okay? DAWN: Really? Mr. KRESSLEY: Yeah. Is that going to be hard? DAWN: Yes. Mr. KRESSLEY: It is? DAWN: Yes. Mr. KRESSLEY: Okay, keep going with the hair. DAWN: Yes. Mr. KRESSLEY: Give me a big hug. DAWN: Thank you so much. Mr. KRESSLEY: I’ll see you in Chicago, okay? DAWN: Yay. Mr. KRESSLEY: I’m proud of you. Keep up the good work. DAWN: Yay, but I couldn’t have, like, the nails back on? Mr. KRESSLEY: In Chicago. DAWN: In Chicago. Mr. KRESSLEY: We’ll discuss. DAWN: We’ll discuss it. Okay, great. Mr. KRESSLEY: Love you more than my luggage. [LAUGHTER] WINFREY: Really good. Okay. So Dawn’s two teenage children are here with her best friend. So how have you guys felt all these years with your mom kind of doing and overdoing? JANINE, DAWN’S DAUGHTER: It’s kind of hard. WINFREY: How old are you? JANINE: Fifteen. WINFREY: Fifteen. How old are you, Troy? TROY, DAWN’S SON: I’m 17. WINFREY: Seventeen. So kind of hard. Tell us why. JANINE: My friends look at her and judge automatically. WINFREY: Mm-hmm. JANINE: And it’s just hard. WINFREY: What do they judge? JANINE: That either she’s a porn star or… WINFREY: Or worse? JANINE: My brother’s friends think she’s a MILF, whore say words like that. WINFREY: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So it’s been hard for you? JANINE: Yeah. WINFREY: For how long has it been hard for you? JANINE: All my life. WINFREY: All your life. Well, you’re in for a big surprise, in for a big surprise, and we’re going to see it as soon as we come back. We’ll be right back. [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: Coming up, her friends say she looks like she’s married to the mob, and this mom admits her look is rubbing off on her 16-year-old daughter. Can they cut it au naturel? Find out when we come back. And later, Nate Berkus is back with a room make-under. WINFREY: So, before the break, we met 44-year-old Dawn. Let’s see her picture again, what she looked like beforeoverdone, overdone, overdone. Her children have been embarrassed about her for years, as you heard her daughter say just before we went to break, and I asked Troy this questionher son during a commercial breakwhat’s the worst thing your friends have said about your mother? And what did you tell me? TROY: That my friends at school call her a MILF. WINFREY: A MILF. So if you don’t know what that is, America, ask your children. WINFREY: Style expert Carson Kressley has been working around the clock with Dawn to literally set her free from the makeup that binds, so everybody ready? Are you ready? You’re really ready, Janine, okay, and her best friend. Is it Wendy, best friend, Wendy? All right. Come on out, Dawn. [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: That is so great. DAWN: Hi, guys. Hi. Oh, thank you. Oh. Oh, yay. Oh, my gosh. WINFREY: That is great. That is great, great, great. Stand right there next to your mom. Stand there right next to her, family shot, very good. Mr. KRESSLEY: Come right here, right out here for a second. I just had to do a quick zhoozh. WINFREY: Okay. Dawn did what Carson said and walked around totally stripped down over the past few days, and I hear not having the attention was really hard for you at first. DAWN: Oh, my gosh, it was so hard. You know, I’m so used to people looking at me and asking me if I’m a celebrity, and, you know… WINFREY: You’re used to leading with your boobs. DAWN: Yeah. WINFREY: Yeah, so that’s been hard for you. DAWN: Yeah. Yeah. It’s been really hard, you know. You’re so used to being a certain way, and then, all of a sudden, I feel like a piece of me was taken away, that I was stripped away, that I was naked, if that makes any sense, because I usually walk around pretty naked. WINFREY: Pretty naked. Mr. KRESSLEY: Almost naked. WINFREY: Dawn called her extensions her comfort food. So how does it feel now to not have all that hair? DAWN: You know what? It’s really freeing, Oprah. It really is. You know, I got up, and, gosh, I wasn’t spending so many hours. WINFREY: Look at Wendy looking at you. As best friend, have you ever seen her like this in the past? WENDY, DAWN’S FRIEND: No. She looks fantastic. [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: So, tell me this. This is a really good question. Is this more like what you really are, like, who you are inside? Does this represent or reflect who you feel that you are? DAWN: Absolutely, absolutely. I feel beautiful. I fell pretty. I feel classy. WINFREY: You look it. All right. Tell us what you did, Carson. Mr. KRESSLEY: Well, I think, you know, the look was so extreme, when I first met her, I was like, “Oh, my god, stripper without a pole. What am I going to do?” [LAUGHTER] WINFREY: Stripper without a pole. Mr. KRESSLEY: And then I got to know her. She is the most wonderful mother, the kindest-hearted person, and under all of that makeup, we really juststripping down to nothing, really, and starting over was what we did because she’s got such great natural beauty. And I think so many women that fall into these beauty addictions of overdoing the hair, overdoing the makeup are trying to layer it on, and they’re kind of hiding, and we just wanted to bring out what was always theregreat bone structure, beautiful eyes, a great figure, beautiful legsand you don’t have to show everything off at once and still look sexy and pretty and have a look that your kids can be proud of, too. WINFREY: And the kids are beaming as much as you are, right, Janine? It’s fantastic. That’s a mom you can take to the PTA. All right. Thank you, Dawn. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Next… [APPLAUSE] Mr. KRESSLEY: But still a MILF. WINFREY: Still a MILF. Okay. So next make -under34-year-old Lúand her 16- year-old daughter Vanessa from Lincolnwood, Illinois. Carson stopped by their house just a few days ago, also. Take a look. LIZ: Oh, my god. Mr. KRESSLEY: How are you? VANESSA: Hi. Mr. KRESSLEY: Hey. LIZ: Hey. I want to squeeze your butt. Mr. KRESSLEY: Oh, my gosh, she just squeezed my butt. LIZ: I do it to everybody. Mr. KRESSLEY: I love it. It’s an unusual kindit’s better than a handshake. It’s 9:30, and you’re totally done up like you’re going to Caesars Palace or something. LIZ: You know, always, always. Mr. KRESSLEY: Wow. I can see a theme here because your house is very… LIZ: You see the theme, right? Sopranos-esque. Mr. KRESSLEY: Yeah. It’s kind of like John Gotti was your decorator. LIZ: I do know that I’m a little bit much. Mr. KRESSLEY: Maybe just a scosche. LIZ: Just a little bit. I was a really poor child, really, really poor. “Poor” is not even the wordand so when I grew up, I was like, “I’m going to have the best of the best.” Mr. KRESSLEY: So, how much time would you say you invest in your beauty routine during the week? Because you must… LIZ: Oh, a lot of hours. I mean, a week’s worth? Ooh, we’re doing, like, 20 hours, 25 hours a week. Mr. KRESSLEY: Stop it. That’s more than I actually work a week. What do you friends think about your look? VANESSA: They think I’m ridiculous. They’ll try to, like, scrape my makeup off. Mr. KRESSLEY: And how about the hair? VANESSA: The hair takes about an hour itself, maybe longer. Depends on how big I’m going to go for that day. Mr. KRESSLEY: Right, right. So, on a scale of bigness, are we a small, medium, or large today? LIZ: We’re medium. VANESSA: Yeah. We’re medium. Mr. KRESSLEY: We’re medium? VANESSA: Yeah. It could get bigger. Mr. KRESSLEY: Wow. Okay. VANESSA: I have the medium Bumpit in. Mr. KRESSLEY: Do you have the Bumpit in right now? LIZ: Oh, yeah, I do. It’s plastic. Mr. KRESSLEY: You could smuggle a small family in here. LIZ: Child. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] Mr. KRESSLEY: They had Bumpits in, as well. WINFREY: Bumpits. Bumpits. I thought only the girls down in… Mr. KRESSLEY: The Jersey Shore, okay, because they’ve taken it to heart. WINFREY: Well, Lúand her daughter haven’t seen each other since their transformations. Liz’s husband, Vanessa’s father Colliais thatColli… COLLIA, LIZ’S HUSBAND, VANESSA’S FATHER: Collia. WINFREY: Is here along with some of their family and friends. Let’s see Lúone more time before, and come on out, Liz. [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: Very nice. That is amazing. Mr. KRESSLEY: Hi, gorgeous. WINFREY: What’s amazing is that she looks so much younger. Mr. KRESSLEY: Yeah. When I gotyou know, and I told her this when I got to her house. I said, “Your pictures with all the makeup made you look like you were more like 45 than 34.” She almost stabbed me with a shoehorn at that point. Yeah, but it was very aging and heavy. WINFREY: Too much makeup too heavy makes you look older. Mr. KRESSLEY: Yeah, and I think, you know, makeup is made to enhance your features, not to cover them up, and when you pile it on, it is aging. WINFREY: So, how does that feel, to be sort of cleaned up there? LIZ: It’s freeing, and it feels so good that everybody else likes it because I didn’t think everybody else will like me like this. WINFREY: Really? LIZ: Yeah. WINFREY: All right, so we’re going to bring Vanessa out. Lúhasn’t seen her daughter yet, and her daughter is only 16 years old. Shocking, huh? Shocking, okay? Vanessa, again, before. Uh-huh. Done, done, and done. Come on out, Vanessa. [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: Oh, so much fresher. So much fresher. Mr. KRESSLEY: Right. Someone who’s 16, sweet. WINFREY: Sixteen, fresh. LIZ: Hello, beautiful. WINFREY: So much fresher. Do you like it yourself? VANESSA: Yeah. WINFREY: Yeah. It just is clean, fresh. Mr. KRESSLEY: Sixteen, pretty, youthful, dewy. WINFREY: Dewy, all that. How did you do that? Mr. KRESSLEY: Well, for Vanessawho I was calling Gosh Spice because she kind of looked like Posh Spice, but it was even more “oh, gosh” it was about making her look age-appropriate. You know, a 16-year-old doesn’t need all that makeup. You’re so gorgeous naturally. VANESSA: Thank you. WINFREY: Yeah. You like? COLLIA: They look hot. I like it. It looks good. [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: Thank you, Lúand Vanessa. Let’s take a break. We’ll be right back. Beautiful, beautiful. You’re right. WINFREY: Coming up, she dresses like this for school, and she’s the professor. And later, Nate Berkus shows this family how to make under an overstuffed room. A lot of people have them. WINFREY: Well, most of us know somebody who’s a little heavy-handed on the eyeliner or a bit excessive with a can of hair spray. Superstar stylist Carson Kressley is here to help us tone it down. Now, this is Cindy, who is a 48-year- old mother of two and a professor at the University of Missouri. Now, she says some of her students and coworkers don’t take her seriously dressed like this. We see why. Take a look. CINDY: I spent a lot of time, or probably more money, making sure that my hair is tight, that my makeup is just right, and that my clothes make me look really, really good. I am a professor. I teach at the journalism school. Some faculty friends would say that the reason I get some conflicts in the classroom might be because I look more like the students. I like things that are different that you can’t find on everybody else, so what I love about this dress, it’s kind of different. So, this is my favorite dress. Why it’s my favorite and nobody else’s, I have no idea, but I’m pretty sure it’s the sparkly. It makes me think, “Gosh, why don’t they like it like I do?” I’ve evolved so many times. I’ve been heavy to thin. I would get dressed in the dark because I hated how I looked. I’ve kept my weight off for almost 19 years. So, what does natural state mean for me? I don’t know what that means, in my natural state, and so this will be interesting to see what I look like made-under. WINFREY: Yes. It’s going to be, and your mother is here and everything. Carson says a lot of women who’ve lost weight, like Cindy, go too far in showing off their new bodies. Boy, I loved her biceps. Those are great. Mr. KRESSLEY: I know. She had Madonna arms. WINFREY: Yes, Madonna arms. So, all right. Let’s see Cindy one more time before. Okay. And come on out, Cindy. [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: Wow, professor. Professor. Very nice. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Love your body, really good. CINDY: Hey, Oprah. WINFREY: Hey, you look fantastic. CINDY: Whoo. How about this, Mom? WOMAN, CINDY’S MOTHER: I love it. I love it. WINFREY: You love it. So, what do you think of yourself now? CINDY: It’s gettingI’m getting used to it. The nails were the hardest thing, Oprah. WINFREY: The hardest thing to give up, the nails. CINDY: Yeah. Wait. Look, Ma. Yeah. WINFREY: Because, what, she had long nails? Mr. KRESSLEY: She had very long nails, and they had artwork on them. Yeah. You were like an eagle, used to your talons. WINFREY: Let’s talk about, for a moment, nails with artwork. Mr. KRESSLEY: Nails withno, I’m not a big fan. Call me crazy, but if there are seagulls or hearts on your nails, probablywho’s looking down there, anyway? Oh, wow. CINDY: Me. Mr. KRESSLEY: Her name’s Brenda. Okay. Let’s go home. WINFREY: That’s fantastic, though. I think your students will love this. Thank you so much. Thank you so much you look great. CINDY: Thank you, Oprah. Thank you, Carson. [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: Last falllast fall we had so much fun on a show about making over your man, so we’re doing it all over again. You can turn in your outdated, scruffy, shaggy-haired manly man right now on, and we might call you to be a part of our upcoming show. For a little inspiration, meet Wayne. [BEGIN VIDEO CLIP] PATTY, WAYNE’S WIFE: My name is Patty Goldwhite. I’m from Taylor, Michigan, and I decided that I would turn in my husband Wayne. Wayne is an ’80s guy. I mean, he is so stuck in the ’80s. These are his tie-dyed shirts. There’s about 20 of them in here. As you notice, all the sleeves are cut off, too. That’s another ’80s thing. He’s a software developer by day and he’s a rock and roller at night. Well, this is Wayne in the bathroom. As you can see, it takes him forever to do his hair. He has to blow-dry and blow-dry and blow-dry just to get the curl out and get it straight and the way he likes it. [LAUGHTER] WINFREY: Okay. That’s why we love America, because there’s just room for everybody. Patty and their daughter Stephanie are here, and — hi. PATTY: Hi. WINFREY: And your dad and husband before. Come on out now, Wayne. [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: Wayne. WAYNE: Whoo. Mr. KRESSLEY: How you doing, Wayne? WAYNE: All right. How you doing, Carson? WINFREY: I’m like, “Wayne, who are you?” WAYNE: I’m trying to figure that out, too. WINFREY: I wouldn’t have evenI couldn’tI… [LAUGHTER] WINFREY: That’s you, too, right? That’s you, too, likewho is that? WOMAN, WAYNE’S DAUGHTER: I don’t know. [LAUGHTER] PATTY: Oh, my god. WINFREY: So, what does this feel like to you? WAYNE: Boy, I’m not even used to it yet. It’s been a thrill. It’s been something different. I’ve never even seen what I look like under here since 14 years old. So, I’m getting used to it myself, butpeople have been encouraging me. They’re going, “Your wife is going to love you.” And I’m thinking, “Okay. All right.” WINFREY: So, tell me this. When youwhen they finished doing the do, what did y’all do? Mr. KRESSLEY: Ah… WINFREY: Colored his hair? Cut his hair? Mr. KRESSLEY: Yeah, what we didhe had so many colors in his hair. You know, I think he had grown his hair longer, he had highlighted it in an attempt to kind of hold on to that ’80s look and hold on to your youth. A lot of guys, they have this, like, Rip Van Winkle syndrome where they, like, forget about their clothes for, like, 40 years and they’re like, “I look great and amazing. It’s what I wore in high school.” I’m like, “That was three decades ago.” [LAUGHTER] Mr. KRESSLEY: So, like, go shopping every presidential election or something. You know? Every four years, kind of remember to kind of update your look. And women are much better at that, but guys sometimes forget. WINFREY: So, what do you think? I mean, you guys are, like, stunned. What do you think? PATTY: It doesn’t look like the same person. He could change his identity. [LAUGHTER] PATTY: He could. It doesn’t look like the same person, but I love it. WAYNE: Thank you. PATTY: I love it. WINFREY: Well, thank you, Wayne. Thank you. Thank you for going along with our experiment. [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: Again, you can go to and turn in your man. Carson will be back for that show in May. You are very funny with guys. Mr. KRESSLEY: Thanks. They’re my specialty, Oprah. I love them. [LAUGHTER] Mr. KRESSLEY: They’re like puppies. WINFREY: They’re like puppies. We’ll be right back. Thanks, everybody. Great, Wayne. [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: Thanks to Bloomingdale’s in Chicago. From head to toe, Bloomingdale’s helped everyone go from over the top to simply chic. To the makeup team at Laura Mercier, thanks for giving our guests a more toned-down look. And finally, a big shout-out to Salon Buzz here in Chicago, who turned poufy, over-processed don’ts into sleek, stylish do’s. Next, Nate goes down to Louisiana to make under this hodgepodge house. WINFREY: Okay. So from your look to your home, you know, many people could use a make-under in their homes. Our go-to guy Nate Berkus says edit, edit, edit, edit, because it’s all about clean decorating, right? NATE BERKUS: It is. You know what? Everybody does this. Everybody in the entire country. They just feelthey don’t feel great about themselves. They buy another trinket, they buy another picture frame, they buy another vase, and they shove it on the bookshelf. You know? WINFREY: And also, everything everybody gives you, you think you’ve got to put out. Mr. BERKUS: Oh, every gift. WINFREY: Yes. Okay, Christina wanted Nate’s help with her mom’s busy, overstuffed, outdated den. Now, you’re going to recognize your own den in this, I’m sure, a lot of you. Nate met Christina and her mom Lois down in Thibodaux? Mr. BERKUS: Thibodaux. WINFREY: Thibodaux. Mr. BERKUS: Thibodaux. WINFREY: Never heard of that. Thibodaux, Louisiana. Take a look. Mr. BERKUS: Hi. LOIS: Hello. Welcome to our home. Mr. BERKUS: Thank you very much. I’m really happy to meet you. LOIS: Okay. Mr. BERKUS: Hi. You’re Christina. CHRISTINA: I am. Mr. BERKUS: You’re the one that turned your mom in. CHRISTINA: I did. All right, Nate. Mr. BERKUS: Yes? CHRISTINA: Here we go. Mr. BERKUS: Okay. Wow. What’s this room? I don’t even know what thisI mean, it’s a den, right? CHRISTINA: Yes. Mr. BERKUS: This part [laugh] okay, great. So, this is the den. CHRISTINA: Uh-huh, this is the gym. Mr. BERKUS: This is the gym. CHRISTINA: And this is the greenhouse. Mr. BERKUS: Garden. Okay. CHRISTINA: And there’s a little bit of a trophy room. Mr. BERKUS: Right. Okay. So, there’s tons of photos. Okay. And shelves with stuff everywhere. This definitely needs a make-under. LOIS: I wanted this to be a sunroom and a den. Mr. BERKUS: Okay. It’s kind of the opposite of a sunroom, in all honesty. I mean, it feels like a winter den, you know? LOIS: Okay. Mr. BERKUS: Here’s what I think. I think there’s too much stuff in this room. The texture of the paneling. The texture of the brick. Busy rug. Busy draperies. Tons of stuff all over the place. Photos you should have, but I can’t even see what I’m looking at in here. And you’re, like sidestepping around the furniture. You got the table pushed up to the sofa here. We’ve got the recliner in the middle. All right, let’s just have a seat. CHRISTINA: Okay. Mr. BERKUS: Let me help you move that coffee table out of the way. There we go. LOIS: Move this out of here. Mr. BERKUS: Sit rightperfect. Lovely. Comfortable. We’re actually having a hard time figuring out our shots, because this room has too much stuff in it, so we can’t figure out where to put our camera guys right now. [LAUGHTER] Mr. BERKUS: All right, so, we’re good. What would you feel comfortable editing out? LOIS: Well, I can edit this table. The bookshelf. Mr. BERKUS: And that’s it? CHRISTINA: I think the entertainment center, because it’s just very big and it takes up a lot of space. Mr. BERKUS: Well, that’s a really common thing that people have now, because everyone had those big TVs so you needed the big cabinets for them. Now you can mount the TV somewhere and you don’t need all this stuff around it. You’re obviously super close to your daughters. Does having all these photos make it feel like they’re closer to you? LOIS: I guess in a sense it does, because they both are so far away. Mr. BERKUS: Mm-hmm. I want to take the focus off of everything and put the focus on what really matters. I’m going to ask for your help. That means that I’m going to ask you to, you know, not help. [LAUGHTER] LOIS: Okay. Mr. BERKUS: You’ve helped enough. With all due respect, you have over helped. LOIS: Oh, okay. WINFREY: I think this is so great, because everybody wants Nate to be able to come to your house, don’t you? [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: He is not. He ain’t going to be able to come to everybody’s house. But I think you’re so right that everybody, after a while, you have too much stuff going on. And what you just said, put the focus on what’s really important, what means something, so that when you walk into the room, what rises up to meet you is what’s important and notyou don’t know where to look. We all can do that. Mr. BERKUS: Yeah, everyone can do this. The truth is not everything is important, and that’s the mistake that people make. They think, “Oh, but this, you know, collection of statues is really important, but also all of my photos are important.” You have to edit your rooms. It’s a maintenance issue. It’s not something that you just keep putting stuff in and putting stuff in. We don’t load up our sink and leave it for 15 years. WINFREY: Yeah. Mr. BERKUS: But we load up our bookshelves and we leave them until “The Oprah Show” sends me. WINFREY: To clean it out. Yeah, I notice that with photographs. You know, you keep adding photographs and adding photographs until you need to edit. Mr. BERKUS: Exactly. Exactly. WINFREY: Nate does his thing when we come back. Nate doing his thing when we come back. WINFREY: Coming up, Nate goes to work on Lois’ den/photo gallery/workout room. Mr. BERKUS: The room is already starting to look completely different. WINFREY: Nate Berkus just got back from the bayou Thibodaux, Louisiana, where he met Christina and her mom, Lois, but we’re going to learn a lot from Lois and Nate because Christina says her mom’s den needs a serious make-under. Too much stuff, too little space. Nate and his team had only 24 hours to get all of this done. I love it when you have a time limit. Mr. BERKUS: Yeah, me, too. WINFREY: Yeah. Take a look. Take a look. Mr. BERKUS: While crews begin dismantling the den, Christina and I start paring down the pictures. I use a post-it process to organize what stays and what goes. I need you just to post-it stuff that I can put in a bin for storage or put in an album. CHRISTINA: I might post-it everything, but… Mr. BERKUS: All right. Well, I’m going to head out and shop and see what I can come up with. CHRISTINA: Okay. Mr. BERKUS: I know, we’re making under the room, but I’m at Lowe’s because I still have to pick up some stuff to streamline the entire space. A softer rug and lighter curtains will brighten up the space. These are so good. They’re literally perfect. Mr. BERKUS: Lois’ den has way too many textures going onbrick, mismatched woodso we neutralized the space with a light paint color. I wanted to unify all of the walls, so the brick has been covered, all of the paneling has been painted. Now we have a backdrop. I know Lois’ photos mean the world to her, so with a little reframing and focus, they’ll stand out even more. Before you start hammering nails into your wall, use paper cutouts to create the layout that you want. Instead of having photos scattered throughout the entire room, it really is best to concentrate on one wall to make a gallery wall. It’s much more impactful and it looks a lot better. Mr. BERKUS: Remember this bulky electric fireplace? I moved it to a better spot and added a coat of paint. And here’s a great idea for multipurpose rooms. I can cordon off this area a little bit with a screen. The exercise equipment, I’m actually turning around to face the other direction, and adding a small TV. The room is already starting to look completely different. I mean, this is a major make-under. We’ve got to get some stuff back in here, of course, but look how different it feels. It’s brighter, it’s lighter, it’s understated. WINFREY: So, that’s already looking good. You painted over the paneling? Mr. BERKUS: I did. Well, you know what? WINFREY: Can you do that? Mr. BERKUS: You can paint over paneling. Pretty much now, you can paint over everything. You just have to ask an expert at a paint store. Tell them what it is that you’re painting over, and there’s a base, there’s a primer that’ll work. WINFREY: Go to Lowe’s. Mr. BERKUS: Go to Lowe’s, exactly. WINFREY: Yeah. I had never heard of Lowe’s before you… Mr. BERKUS: They’re smart at Lowe’s. WINFREY: Yeah, I had never heard of Lowe’s before you started doing these shows, and now I use Lowe’s all the time. Mr. BERKUS: Yeah. No, it’s great. WINFREY: Coming up, the big reveal. We’ll be right back. WINFREY: Okay. So one overdone, overstuffed room plus Nate Berkus and his crew from Lowe’s divided by 24 hours to get it done, and this is what you get. Time for our big reveal. Here we go. Mr. BERKUS: Now, don’t open your eyes until I… LOIS: Who am I talking to? Mr. BERKUS: This is Nate. Nate. [LAUGHTER] LOIS: Oh. Okay. Mr. BERKUS: So don’t open your eyes until I say, “Now please open your eyes.” Okay? LOIS: Okay, no problem. Mr. BERKUS: All right. Keep ’em closed. All right, guys. Open your eyes. LOIS: [scream] Oh. Oh, lord. Thank you. [APPLAUSE] CHRISTINA: [laugh] Wow. Mr. BERKUS: What do you think? It’s a little different. LOIS: Oh, it’s beautiful. It’s really pretty. Oh. Mr. BERKUS: I’m so glad you like it. LOIS: I do. It looks pretty. Mr. BERKUS: I’m so glad you like it. LOIS: It’s pretty. Thank you, Christina. CHRISTINA: No problem. LOIS: I think I’ll cry. Mr. BERKUS: Everyone’s crying. CHRISTINA: I know, and I don’t like to do the ugly cry, so, you know. LOIS: It’s beautiful. It’s truly beautiful. CHRISTINA: I don’t think we could have imagined this. LOIS: No. Mr. BERKUS: You’re welcome. LOIS: Is this my house? Mr. BERKUS: So that’s your fireplace. I just had it painted, and I moved it over to this wall. CHRISTINA: Oh. Itso it is the same one? Mr. BERKUS: It’s the same fireplace, but I wanted the focus to be this way in the room. It felt too narrow the other way. LOIS: Mm-hmm. Mr. BERKUS: So by moving that, I left the sofa in the same spot. The television went on the wall where the fireplace used to be. I used a lot of your same pieces. This is your sofa. LOIS: Mm-hmm. Mr. BERKUS: That is actually the chest that the TV was on before. CHRISTINA: Oh, the middle piece. Mr. BERKUS: Yeah, the middle piece. LOIS: Oh. Mr. BERKUS: So I painted it and distressed it, and then I added new hardware, as well. LOIS: It’s still my junk. But now it’s elegant. Mr. BERKUS: I was allowed to keep a lot of your original furniture because I changed the background, and that’s a really important point to make. Before, there was too many textures with brick and wood and the wood of the fireplace. I paneled over everything and I painted the entire thing so we could kind of neutralize all of that and make it seem much more calming to the eyes. The draperies, the heavy colors are lightened up. Very airy, very fresh. It’s more like that sunroom that you had mentioned to me. So this, I think, is kind of great, because I kept your exercise room. I have the pieces right back here behind the screen. There’s a baby TV back there. LOIS: Mm-hmm. CHRISTINA: Wow. Mr. BERKUS: Before, it had to face this way so that you could watch TV. And so by putting a screen in between the family room part and the exercise part, it really takes the focus off of this. And I pared down the plants. When they start growing around the room, just like the photos, same thing. You can’t appreciate them anymore. You’re laughing. Why are you laughing? LOIS: Because the pictures did go around the room. Mr. BERKUS: Definitely. And the plants, too. CHRISTINA: And the plants, too. LOIS: I’m looking now. As you stated, I can really see… CHRISTINA: The pictures. LOIS: The pictures. And not a whole bunch of clutter. I’m blown away. Mr. BERKUS: I’m so happy. LOIS: I am, really. I’m happy. CHRISTINA: I’m happy, too. Yeah. [APPLAUSE] WINFREY: Christina and Loishow nicejoin us from their new den on Skype. Lois says this experience has inspired her to edit more rooms in her house. Lois, you know, I was looking at that space. First of all, hi. Hi to you, both. CHRISTINA: Hi, guys. LOIS: Hello. WINFREY: So, how are you enjoying it? LOIS: We are thoroughly enjoying it. My husband and Iwe were able to watch the Super Bowl”who Dat?”for the Saints. WINFREY: Who Dat? LOIS: So we enjoy it, yes. WINFREY: That’s fantastic. Mr. BERKUS: You know, Lois, I heard that as soon as I left and headed for the airport, that you started pulling pictures off the walls in the other part of the house and that you were going to paint the rest of the house. Is that true? LOIS: I got so pumped up and excited that I said that this has inspired me to go into the rest of the home and to take your advice on redoing it and lighting up the walls in the other rooms. WINFREY: Christina, what do you think? CHRISTINA: Oh, I think it’s great. You know, Nate did an excellent job. And I obviously expected that from Nate, but the fact that in 24 hours, he was able to capture so much of our essence and hone into what’s important to my mom and our family, it was incredible. WINFREY: That’s what that Nate does. Thank you both so much. Who Dat? Mr. BERKUS: Thanks, guys. WINFREY: Thank you so much. LOIS AND CHRISTINA: Bye. Thank you. WINFREY: We’ll be right back. A special thanks to our friends at Lowe’s for helping Nate tone down and spruce up Lois’ house in Louisiana. Lowe’s specializes in projects that take one weekend, and you’re done. WINFREY: Well, recently, Nate took the “No Phone Zone” pledge. You did. Mr. BERKUS: I did do that. WINFREY: And how’s it going? Mr. BERKUS: I haven’t broken my pledge, I am proud to announce. But I have to say, what I didn’t anticipate, Oprah… WINFREY: Was? Mr. BERKUS: Was that I would have to redo my schedule a little bit. Because I used to say, “Let me call you as soon as I get in the car.” WINFREY: “Get in the car,” yep. Mr. BERKUS: “You know what? We’ll do that call in the car,” because I thought I had no distractions. WINFREY: Right. Isn’t that so crazy? Mr. BERKUS: Stupidright. So stupid. WINFREY: “I thought I’d get in the car and call you because I have no distraction.” Mr. BERKUS: Right, “Because then I might kill myself or kill somebody, but I’ll make sure that I get that call and I can hear, because no one’s talking to me.” So stupid. WINFREY: Yeah. And now I won’t even talk to anybody who’s on their phones, because… Mr. BERKUS: Yes. WINFREY: God forbid, somebody’s in an accident, and they say, “I was talking to Oprah.” Mr. BERKUS: Can you imagine? Well, first of all… WINFREY: Oh, no. Mr. BERKUS: I can’tI mean, I’m not going to risk it, either, because somebody’s going to see me on the expressway and call you. WINFREY: Yeah. Mr. BERKUS: So, not happening. WINFREY: No, I will turn you in if I see you. Mr. BERKUS: I’ll turn you in, too. WINFREY: Okay, good. Good. So, be like Nate. Stop texting and talking on your cell while driving. And when Carson comes back, we’re going to get him to take the pledge. I can see you’re like, “Hmm.” Mr. KRESSLEY: I wasyeah, the wheels were turning. WINFREY: I saw your wheels turning like… Mr. BERKUS: But you’re in New York, so you don’t drive. Mr. KRESSLEY: I live in New York, so I call people on the subway. WINFREY: Well, that, you can do. Mr. KRESSLEY: Yeah. It doesn’t really work, because you’re underground, but I still like it. [LAUGHTER] WINFREY: Take the No Phone Zone pledge on Get your friends and your family to sign up, too. It’s a commitment to saving lives so that we don’t have to continue to tell stories about the 6,000 people who were killed last year. Take our No Phone Zone pledge. Thanks. [APPLAUSE]

51 Replies to “Make-Unders: How’d You Get That Way? | The Oprah Winfrey Show | Oprah Winfrey Network”

  1. Wow. She was gorgeous under the AMY winehouse costume. She did look like a $2 hoe and probably the nicest lady in n the world…

  2. I don’t think the makeup and hair you choose should define you. Their inner beauty is what really matters but I do see why we should uplift natural beauty

  3. I wish OWN would upload all Oprah’s Favorite Things episodes. Only reason I wanted to see them is that it brings so much joy. It so good to see people being uplifted. I know its all material things, but whenever I see people’s reaction, I get inspired to the same for someone.

  4. 6.48 in. Man with pumped up lips and no wrinkles at all and visible nose job talks about woman with beauty addiction and how he's going to help her. Okayyy

  5. @ 1:46 – This makes me a bit uncomfortable. This woman clearly has a lovely heart, is a good person and really cares for and loves her children. Her flashy look is likely a mere manifestation of shame issues. It almost feels like a shaming of her for manifesting her shame.

  6. Wayne's wife got totally "hot and bothered," but in a good way, just laying eyes on her husband after his make over. Lol!

  7. The 16 year old girl looks like a 35 year old woman. The 34 year old woman looks like a 45 year old. No shade but they’ve could style them more age apropriate.

  8. Yes, the room looks much, much better…..however I would have stipulated, you leave my brick alone. Work around it, the brick stays. Exposed brick is so gorgeous, it stunned me when he covered it up. He def could have left it and still made the room beautiful.

  9. I like Dawn so much. She's so hurt, but she's trying her best to feel better and be honest with herself without being harsh. Her kids obviously love her, I think they just want her to feel good about herself.

  10. I saw on where are they now the first mom went back to the heavy makeup and extensions etc and now has a fiance

  11. Omg I'm so excited to have full episodes of oprah! I grew up my whole childhood watching(before dr Phil even had a show), and I always associate fall with coming home from school and watching new episodes… I hope there will be more!

  12. Low self esteem at its best. This just goes to show that ppl need to watch their words. It can mess up someone’s life

  13. Oprah has never heard of Lowes?😲😅😄😃🤣😀😆😄
    Oprah looks very pretty especially het hair😘

  14. I can't believe how young she looks without all that makeup and hair. So ironic how all that aged her 13:38 she looked so old before. Wow!

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