Jeremy Kyle: A Tale of Trash TV | Jack Saint

Jeremy Kyle: A Tale of Trash TV | Jack Saint


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And once again, you can get a free two months of the service if you use the offer code listed down below. neat! So a few weeks ago, I flew out to come visit the UK, and scrolling through trending news to get up-to-date on the goings-on, you might expect what I’d want to talk about is the fact that Brexit is still a mess, and Theresa May has apparently resigned, and now Boris Johnson is probably going to be the prime minister. So Jeremy Kyle got canceled, eh? So in case you’re not aware, the Jeremy Kyle show is a sort of Jerry Springer-esque family drama talk show, that’s been pretty solidly popular in UK daytime TV for about 14 years now. It’s a show mostly comprised of low-income families talking about such issues as. “My son is jealous of my cancer-stricken husband.” “Your son can’t be mine because he’s ginger.” And, “has my son cut up my sex toy?” And almost always the structure of the show would be that there’s sort of conflicting narratives from multiple parties, and it would be something like ‘oh, you stole something,’ or ‘oh, you cheated on me’ and then they’d bring out the lie detector, which is accurate in over 99% of cases, and then that would decide who was lying, who were telling the truth, and if the original accuser turned out to be the one who was lying, they’d now be the bad guy. If the one who was accused turned out to be lying, they would be forced to either deny everything, or sort of collapse into a heap of tears and sadness, and beg the jeering audience for forgiveness. You know, it’s trash TV. It’s sensational and provocative and kind of useless as actual therapeutic practice, but like… It’s not really why you’re watching it, right? But then, on May of this year, something different happened after a guest was outed as having cheated on their partner based on the lie-detector test. That guest killed themselves. And so, obviously, show was off the air. They had hundreds of complaints, ITV removed the whole show from their archives, Kyle was out, it’d all gone sort of too far. And what I was sort of left with was a question, that I had seen pop up in comment section a few times: What really changed here? Like, what had really changed about the style of Kyle’s content that meant he had to be punished in this way? If Kyle’s content continued to be basically what it had been for over a decade, deliberately coaxing out these big family meltdowns on live TV, what was the line that he’d suddenly crossed? And why did he cross it? And as I thought about the answer, I realised it pertained not just specifically to Jeremy Kyle, but, kind of to this wider discussion of Trash TV as a genre, and then even from that, sort of broader points about the culture that created Trash TV. So I got like twenty minutes. Let’s chat. [ding!] Final disclaimer, that this video will not be pursuing the idea that all of this is staged theatre. Reports remain incredibly mixed on that, especially for the shows I’m focusing on here, so while it’s an interesting line of questioning, life’s easier if we ignore it for today. Now on with the show. So: the line. The invisible line of ethics we seem to only recognize is there at the exact moment we agree the line has been crossed. If you’re familiar with my channel, you know I’ve covered this sort of topic in the past. One of my first videos was on the Plane Bae Controversy, in which a cute story involving an airplane couple, became a weird social media stalking campaign fairly rapidly. More recently, I did a video on hoaxes, and how we decide when a work of fiction has gone too far in trying to blend reality with fantasy. I’ve included links for them, so you’re free to check them out, but I think for Trash TV, I want to go a different route. So when it comes to shows like Jerry Springer Jeremy Kyle, Dr. Phil, Maury, what is it that viewers come for in the first place? On the surface, it’s a pretty easy question: Entertainment, but obviously that can mean a lot of different things. You don’t get the same thing out of an ice-cream as you do from a nice scream. In all honesty, if I had to connect the specific kind of entertainment viewers get out of watching shows like Springer and Kyle, it’s probably the gallows. Like, we don’t tune in out of a general desire for dramatic tension or comedy, there’s tons of fiction for that. What I think we really want is to see, live on TV, somebody’s life just completely fall apart. Particularly when we’re given some vague reasoning about how they’re really the bad person. Oh, they’re a thief. Oh, they’re a cheater. So it’s okay to enjoy their suffering. It sounds pretty harsh, but you really have to consider what specifically you’re getting out of something like this that you aren’t getting out of other things. The appeal is in the fact that this is real and raw. This is our selling point, and I think this led pretty naturally to the problem faced by Jeremy Kyle. In the case of Steve Diamond and his complete breakdown, from a consumerist standpoint, this is almost the show working at peak capacity. if we’re being sold a show about real world intense drama playing out in front of our eyes, the notion of a man being completely publicly destroyed after being found out as an adulterer, is exactly what the show is going for. Of course, an appeal to consumerism doesn’t always line up well with our ideas about ethics, (some would say they’re almost always totally at odds with each other) and so we kind of have to make that value judgment on a case by case basis. If I can make a bold claim, I think on some level we all know there’s something exploitative about a lot of these kinds of shows. That, a lot of these times, for instance, people will apply to take part because it’s a cheaper alternative to paying out for a paternity test, or because they need to prove their innocence of a crime because otherwise they’ll be homeless, and not because they really want to be a big public spectacle, or, they’re just not in the right mental state to handle these issues in more constructive ways. But these are issues shows like Kyle’s are often predicated on avoiding as much as possible, and I think that ties once again into their inherent appeal. And that appeal is the Frog Pond. [Frog Pond music] Coined first by James Davis, the Frog Pond effect outlines the theory that in an environment of perceived higher performing individuals, lower performing individuals will see themselves as having lesser value, and that the opposite is also true, when in an environment of unsuccessful people, our self-evaluation goes up, just like what frogs do, in ponds. This comes from the broader field of social comparison theory and as noted by McFarland and Buehler, as often stemming from individuals in highly individualist cultures, and it’s easy to see why. Because in an individualist culture, your successes and failures, are YOUR successes and failures. Where in a more collective culture, we might be the only successful worker and say to ourselves, ‘something is wrong with how this system is organized if I’m the only one succeeding.’ An individualist can look at this and say, ‘Well, at least then I’ll do better than them.’ And I think if you really examine it for a second, you can see how this rings true for Jeremy Kyle and this entire field of voyeuristic Trash TV. Pretty famous, for example, is Kyle’s frequent redirection away from acknowledging mental illnesses and disorders in those that take part in the show. WOMAN: I’ve got a back condition, I can’t stand up for too long. KYLE: I don’t mean to be rude love, I have to do this show in the right way. If you’ve got a back condition Why do you spend so much time on it? [audience laughter and applause] KYLE: I mean there’s Charles who’s refused to come on stage. He’s sat backstage, Charles, why won’t you come on stage then? CHARLES: Because I’m shy, I don’t like cameras. KYLE: Well, that’s great because you’re talking into one, your face is being broadcast to millions of people, so why don’t you save me time, and get out here and face the music, because if you haven’t done it, you wouldn’t need to hide, would you? [applause] I mean like, Jeremy Kyle might not have any real qualification in psychology, but he works with people who do, he knows that this isn’t how social anxiety works, this is pretty basic. You don’t only feel nervous when you’re guilty about something. But this downplaying is characteristic of a lot of his work. Here’s a segment from spin-off show emergency room in which doctors and illness sufferers try to patiently explain their medical ailments while Jeremy insists they… just need to stop eating. MAN: Since I contracted cellulitis three and a half years ago, my weight’s gradually gone up from, I’ve always been quite big, around 17 to 19 stone, and it’s just gone up and up and up since then. DOCTOR: Cellulitis is infection under the surface layer of the skin. It spreads really rapidly that can bear life-threatening conditions, so quite often, it’s a hospitalization issuing intravenous antibiotic. He’s got this massive skin change, his legs are very swollen. KYLE: You almost look they you can look at that. DOCTOR: I completely understand why he’s not been able to do it on his own. KYLE: Yeah. DOCTOR: You know we may not understand why, but we understand–I understand lots of people in the same situation. KYLE: Unless you change your lifestyle, and stop eating, and try at least to do something, you’re going to die. I don’t understand why that wouldn’t be enough. Are you with me or not? [oof] MAN: Because of the financial situation we’re in, we can’t eat stuff like lean meat and that, we just can’t afford to buy it, so we have to buy the basics. I know it’s not healthy. KYLE: It’s about education as well — JACK: It’s not just about education. Dude has no money and an infected leg. DOCTOR: He needs help, he needs support. He’s getting that, the NHS is delivering that. [music] JACK: This is all capped off by his book, which is called… “I’m Only Being Honest.” A tome of truisms about how society’s going down the toilet, because of individual lazy people and single moms who are just soaking up all the benefits they get, despite in interviews not really being able to say exactly what those benefits are. It’s the kind of do-it-yourself rags-to-riches attitude that can only be expected from the son of the personal secretary to the royal family. [fart noise] Yeah. Kyle also really likes vague allusions to a rose-tinted past when he’s describing his worldview, and all of this makes sense, of course this sort of simplistic view where we just kind of ignore systemic blocks like sex or class or mental illness in our judgments of other people, of course that would be a perfect fit for a show like the Jeremy Kyle show. Because in that, is your whole narrative. It’s the reason to tune in, because the whole show is predicated on exposing these people as failures who have, as individuals, lost, when you have not. WOMAN: You’re a freak! MAN: That’s nice. WOMAN: You are a freak! MAN: That’s nice. WOMAN: You’re a Freak. JACK: You didn’t have to air your dirty laundry on broadcast television, you don’t have any disorder that provokes you to act in unusual ways, you don’t have bad teeth because the NHS doesn’t pay for cosmetic surgery. COMMENTATOR: There they are. Those are the teeth right there. There’s two — two larger teeth — JACK: The more we can shrug off the many factors that lead people to act in desperate and irrational ways, factors they may not necessarily control, the more It just becomes the Frog Pond again; Where the biggest frog is the one least likely to become the kind of person who shows up on the Jeremy Kyle show. This is fundamentally, in my opinion, the answer to the question of what the recent cancellation represented, and that is what changed. In the moment of Diamond’s suicide, the exposure it received, the response to it, that was truly what was broken. Not the realization that exploitation was taking place, we already knew that. But further exposing that those being exploited were not just abstract individuals who chose bad things and suffered consequences, but real human beings with real issues that could affect their choices and situations. The guy in poverty with a rotting foot might have reasons for his weight other than being lazy. The guy who suddenly killed himself might not have agreed to go onto the show in the most mentally well state. And at that point, the fun is gone. You can’t claim superiority over anyone anymore. Not once it becomes apparent they are facing more complicating factors than you do. The Frog Pond is over, now it’s just a load of frogs, and just a regular dude. Standing in the pond with the frogs. None of this is an admonishment to the idea of wanting to help someone correct harmful behavior. I think that can be a very constructive action, and several shows also popular at the time exemplified it. Benefit Street is a popular UK series that had plenty of valid criticism, much of which I’ll discuss in a future video. But, it at least showed real care to clearly demonstrate the difficult situations most downtrodden people come from, rather than constantly trying to discard them. Even as individuals in it try to help one another. Even returning to Trash TV, frankly, compared to a lot of these types of shows, Jeremy’s is not the worst. Those red flags I just mentioned exist, make no bones about it, but with its emphasis on post show support, there is an effort to do more than just present you the bad people you don’t want to be like. Nothing comes close to the kind of visceral point and laugh at the loser nature of US equivalents: [ding ding ding] Not having 50 identical episodes of staged trans-panic is cool too. BLONDE: And like, why you calling me a thot? BRUNETTE: Because you are respected as a thot. I can’t respect you as a — BLONDE: What are you? BRUNETTE: I’m a man. BLONDE: And I’m a man too. [audience screaming] BLONDE: You loved it, didn’t you? [oh boy] But the way it’s handled here is indicative of a broader ignorant and pervasive view, one that suggests we downplay our criticisms of larger systems that oppress certain groups for certain reasons, and instead redirect everything to the individual, and that brings me to the bigger point: [The Bigger Point music] I’ll be honest. I’m not just talking about all this Frog Pond social comparison theory stuff in the name of academic intrigue, and this isn’t me admitting ‘oh, I watched and enjoyed Jeremy Kyle too,’ although I did do that for a time. I also like dashcam road rage videos. [men fighting] [still at it] Moreso, I’m admitting that this kind of pattern definitely pervades a lot of my thinking both personally and professionally. I make Youtube videos. It’s what I do. For the most part, I do genuinely want to see other people who make similar content to me succeed, and I’m extremely grateful for any views my videos get, but I’m also not going to deny that yes, I do sometimes get that little jolt of relief when I see my videos being more popular than other videos made by other creators at a similar time, and the contrary also applies. When my videos are getting fewer views than other videos of a similar type, that feels bad too, even if the views themselves aren’t really that low. I would like to say that just seeing the raw number go up is enough gratification, but this time last year my videos were cracking out a thousand views max, and I feel barely more secure on their quality now that I can get over 50 times that. It’s the comparison that feels good. All this, while I know that in reality the forces that made my video succeed are way beyond simply me as an individual making a really good video. The YouTube algorithm is a hellish beast, and honestly, I could do a whole video discussing it, but the simple version is as basic as me reminding people that my Sky High fascism video, one of the most popular things I’ve done, had like… 2,000 views for months before it suddenly went everywhere, and how did it get there? Because Sky High was trending for some reason, and YouTube threw it in people’s recommendations, and then more popular careers like Jenny Nicholson saw it and tweeted about it, and then I just happened to do a video about another Disney film, so people were recommended that too, and that’s how I suddenly got a ton of subscribers. Did I do things that played a role in my success there? Sure. Were there a huge number of factors outside of my control that led to this occurrence? Also very much so. And yet I see the number go higher than it does for others, and I feel like I did something right. And the reason for that, or at least a large part of it, is because I am in a system that is explicitly designed to make me feel that way. I’m in a system where I’m trained to live under the assumption that my successes will be rewarded, and my failures are mine alone, and to be ashamed when I blame anything but myself for any part of my struggle. I cannot even imagine the frustration, for instance, for LGBT creators whose videos are regularly demonetised and hidden because they specifically discuss LGBT issues. Disabled creators who cannot always meet the algorithmic demand for evenly scheduled frequent uploads. All creators of color who, for some reason continue to get frequently ignored by the algorithm. Instead, I am taught that the only way to win is to work really hard and ignore that the system even exists, and if I had to think of one of the most effective ways to instill that in someone’s mind, I really can’t think of something much better than shows that give us endless opportunities to point and laugh at the people who are even bigger losers than us. Admonish them for not having their lives more together and sending them on their way. And while Jeremy Kyle is not the worst in this regard, its cancellation exemplifies the floors behind this mindset: The Trash TV myth of hyper-individualism. And hey, look, I’m just a youtuber, all this is just a theory. But you know what else is just a theory? Gravity. Hey folks. Thanks for watching. As I’ve discussed in the past, I myself grew up in a low-income single mother household, so you can imagine a conversation like this is really important to me, and I can’t wait to hear your own thoughts down below. 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  2. Trash TV has always been a guilty pleasure. I hate it so much, it makes me angry to see at times and I'm enraged at how exploitative it is at times, yet I still fucking watch it because I get such a sick satisfaction from seeing these insane dysfunctional meltdowns. I'll admit, I've gone through periods in which I got sick of the shows trashiness like Jerry Springer was too damn fake, Maury as well was just so terrible but I couldn't absorb it anymore. I am British, but I watched the American shows because they especially had this extra level of trashiness that was unreal because it was American. It was so otherworldly and was stuff you would only ever see on TV. I watched Jezza Kyle occassionally, but strangely enough the fact that I could see these people as being real people, because I knew damn well they were the average "chav" and such, just took away my enjoyment. It wasn't too outlandish because you sometimes encountered these idiots in real life. It was actually just painful to watch at times.

    I actually didn't like when he went on those tirades where he'd lay into someone, insult and humiliate them in front of everyone. There was most definitely a satisfaction I got when they sincerely acted out, made themselves to be a terrible person directly and faced consequences for it – like when they'd get violent on the set and be escorted out by employees. I liked seeing the type of people who thought violence was the answer and their ego came before everything else, and seeing them get taken down from that when Jeremy refused to play that game was satisfying. These were people you often knew in real life that you could never get that message through to them yourself, you could never let them know how you truly felt and refusing to let them have power over you through intimidation, so its downright cathartic at times

    But it's like with the show Benefits Street. My mum is convinced there's lobbying for such shows specifically to reinforce such a negative light of those dependent on government assistance. It was manufactured rage for the man getting a free house with his many kids, no one worked and he'd use the governments money to pay for birthday parties and shit. One of his daughters got a job and she was the first in the family to do so, and everyone was proud of her. She quit after two weeks because she said she felt everyone was looking down on her, and her family praised her choice and she went on benefits. This angered so many. We want to be mad at those on disability and needing help, because we want to reinforce our justification for feeling angry that our work supports them. It's never that simple though, and there's so much that goes into who gets what and who's actually paying for what, it's a massive complex issue in which we all benefit and lose out on. But it's very simple and easy to paint them as being lazy, good-for-nothing and awful people. When those are the only factors holding someone back, you feel justified in leaving them to suffer with the consequences, because you can perceive them as solely being a result of their own actions. Adding extranuous factors though really muddies that shit, humanises them and forces you to examine them as to how you would behave in their situation. When you've the faintest sliver of empathy and common sense, it's not a good feeling.

    I think that's also why I enjoyed the American shows much more, as well. It's a lot harder for me to empathise with those situations because it was so outlandish and otherworldly; it was just easier to detach and not even humanise them as they acted straight up like characters on TV, and not real-people I could ever imagine meeting or being

  3. who doesn't want to see grown adults throwing fists around like rowdy 13 year olds
    however Jeremy Kyle is a pretty mean motherfucker compared to like Maury Povich XD

  4. Human bear baiting, in which the poor and the vulnerable, (often both) where humiliated, solely to portray the working classes as feckless, addicts and lazy and turn them against themselves, hence why people out of work where treated like sub humans on the show.

    Tragic it took somebody to die to finish it, good fucking riddance Kyle you shameless fuck.

  5. Degeneracy sells. Just look at the majority of the content and it’s various degenerate creators on you tube.

  6. The people who watch Trash like that……………are people who are dull, got boring lives just to make themselves feel better, thoses type of people are RETARDS.

  7. Vile Kyle didn't turn up to MPs inquiry………………………KYLE THE COWARD.
    I'm laughing at the kyle fans right now.

  8. When Brits brag about how much smarter and more sophisticated they are than Americans, I look at stuff like this and have a chuckle

  9. Another thing I noticed about The Jeremy Kyle show is that they would cutaway to often good looking, young, student like girls and guys in the audience as if to compare them with the often uneducated/unattractive/overweight/toothless/greasy haired people onstage.

  10. How about Keeping Up with the Kardashians? That traumatises young girls into thinking that life is perfect and you should look like a perfect barbie doll at all times.

    Or Love Island? That promotes public humiliation and bullying for entertainment as it turns love, one of the most important and complex emotions, into a game that you can lose.

  11. Not to attack anyone, but do you have a degree in psychology? Cause I need someone needs to genuinely analyse Jeremy Kyle.

  12. So now I’m conflicted; I want to upvote because I liked the video but in doing so am I just validating a problematic software platform?

  13. it is noteworthy to say that Jeremy Kyle was the poster boy for David Cameron's big society having been fronted at the Conservative Party one year in Manchester

  14. There's also the fact that polygraph tests (i.e. "lie detectors") are laughably inaccurate. That 99% accuracy claim is marketing bullshit, it's a pseudoscience that even its own inventor ended up strongly regretting. To be fair some studies have indicated that they might have a slightly higher chance than just flipping a coin, but it's certainly nowhere near reliable enough to actually apply the technology for lie detection. There's a reason their results aren't admissible in court.

  15. I'm guessing that the family of that guy who offed himself can't sue Jeremy due to a contract or something, but if they can, I'd say they should, especially if there's some good evidence to support the idea that Jeremy indirectly assisted in suicide.

  16. This vid made me cry. Thank you for understanding mental health, because some people think it's an excuse, but it's real and horrifying the amount of people that suffer and try to get through day to day life ❤️ it's so common today that I think people sometimes still don't take it seriously. Please keep fighting and take care anyone who feels overwhelmed with mental struggles I hope you find the help you need whatever that may be ♥️

  17. Kyle Kallgren did a video comparing these kinds of shows to old freakshows, stating they were a different kind of freakshow for a modern age. It's pretty interesting but it doesn't specifically mention Jezza. I'd recommend it to anyone who found this video interesting.

    Thank you as always for your fantastic content, Jack!

  18. You've touched on the myth of "meritocracy," something the neoliberal elites like to promote because it allows them to feel superior. And we've recently seen how they'll even cheat to maintain that illusion in order to get their kids into prestigious schools. For more on this, you might want to read, "Against Meritocracy" by Jo Littler, "The Meritocracy Trap" by Daniel Markovits, or "The Meritocracy Myth" by Stephen J. McNamee, and there are a few others on the subject.

  19. I thought I was one of the only few people who openly admit to having an addiciton and love of watching dashcam videos; I always buzz off a local area one randomly appearing hahaha

  20. If you compare that to gravity you'll have to call it a theorem as it is not proven (aka proven to be disprovable at current standards).

  21. As someone who's had first-hand experience with it, I say good riddance to the show.

    My fiance went on the show last June to get some help with her neglectful father, to get him more involved with her two brothers. She thought it was a good idea at the time. I thought it was a horrible idea. Her issues with her family do not belong on national television, but needless to say, she went for it, and those heartless swines at ITV kept badgering me for details on her father, what his work habits are like, how he behaves emotionally. He's a hardcore racist, and they were trying to goad me into giving them juicy gossip by revealing what he said about me. I was not having any of it. I knew exactly what they were up to, and refused to go on the show. I gave them the absolute bare minimum. My main goal was to get my girl off that show as soon as possible and back home, away from Manchester.

    Long story short, she recorded her show in June, she was on for barely 10 minutes, very little drama to be seen. They clearly just wanted her off as soon as they realised there wasn't gonna be any family scrap. The producers kept in contact over the next few months, constantly asking how everything was going on. They promised counselling for my girl and her family. They sounded sincere at the time… Then the show aired in September. They stopped calling. No follow ups, no checking to see if they're OK, no counselling sessions came from this, not a single thing. Her relationship with her family hasn't improved in the absolute slightest from that show. It's actually gotten worse, and she's severed contact with her parents and her siblings.

    I know the show has been cancelled for good, but I beseech anyone with personal family issues. Do not take them on national TV like this. It will get you absolutely nowhere. Go to therapy. Talk things out. Grow stronger. That's as good as it's gonna get. The jeering crowds on Jeremy Kyle and such will get you nowhere.

  22. Jeromy Kyle is 🗑. Stoped watching him after I realised how much he was using people with mental health/ or substance abuse issues just to make money, have good ratings and to berate them for views.

  23. Jeremy Kyle is so damn skeevey he creeps me , he isn't honest, he certainly isn't a nice person and this was long overdue, he was and still is an overbearing bully that has been rewarded time and time again for being a human shaped rectal discharge

  24. "You don't get the same thing out of an ice cream as you do from a nice cream" – Jack 'daddy kink' Saint

  25. The Guy who killed himself was a paedophile,
    This was stated by his daughter and his first wife,
    Though I don’t think Jeremy Kyle was great I don’t think it should of been cancelled,
    That’s just my 2 cents

  26. when they took Jeremy kyle of the air they should have took off love island their have been people on that show tha have killed them selves yet it is still on the air disgraceful .

  27. I have never watched a full episode of the Jeremy Kyle show as I felt it was intrusive and shit. Kyle is/was a TV pimp. He exploited those less fortunte for his income. HE IS A CUNT!!

  28. Me during this video: "please don't have any obvious trans related stuff please please please"

    "I'm a man too"

    Fuuuuuuuck, the British for being so anti trans sometimes really likes brining trans and gender non-conforming people on TV…. To mock them

  29. The show also feeds into some wishful thinking. "They're on that situation because they're bad. As long as I'm good, nothing that bad can ever happen to me."

  30. Congrats! You just beat the YouTube recommendation algorithm again. I'm sure you will assign yourself the appropriate level of credit 😉

  31. Great vid, I saw this coming a long time ago. It is a cultural shift to reduce empathy as empathy is the precursor to collectivism. Now I'm not saying that there is cabal of people orchestrating this. There are simply relationships and networks that exist higher up the broadcasting hierarchies that promote these kind of programs and sentiments, this then cascades down and resonant with members of society that also have vested interests in engaging or promoting them (ie. The frog pond).

    BTW @JackSaint the chap you featured in your benefits street clip Seamus sadly died last week. I knew him and he was utterly exploited by the program being left homeless (someone after seeing him on the program paid for some rehabilitative care which did work for a time). He was clearly unwell and had problems with addiction. People in his local area tried to support him when they could he was also polite, friendly and a witty whenever I saw and spoke to him. Sadly he was found dead of suspected heart attack (I don't want to speculate the circumstances because I don't think anyone knows yet).

    Anyway great vid will definitely be looking out for more on the same topic as it has been rotting the UK culture for the last 20 years.

  32. I know of 3 people who live in my area in the Midlands UK have been on Jeremy Kyle and was 100% legit

  33. This is why I just kinda avoid mainstream reality media, it’s just really exploitative and makes me feel icky watching

  34. Thank you so much for this video. I've seen a similar type of show (on Viasat if anyone has that), where "dumb" people are asked basic questions and the "smart", usually famous people bet on whether the "dumb" ones would get it right. My friends love that show.
    Thanks for showing me what it actually is: a way to make me feel better than others and thus widening the gap between people. It was especially gratifying for me to watch, being "the smartest person in the school". But it kept me from asking questions like "why on Earth are so many people so undereducated? Why did the system say 'yep, these people are perfectly equipped with all the necessary skill to survive'?"
    So reall, thank you.

  35. honestly who'd even waste their time watching jeremy kyle. Rather go out and take a walk than watch shit tv. Then again, I don't own a TV, so I can't quite relate to how it feels being sucked into shit reality tv.

  36. Jezz has done a lot of good over the years, its easy to criticize when your picking out the worse of the worse. At the end of the day he knew he was lying, he could have not gone on the show and he chose to top himself because of his own poor decisions.

  37. 4:27 that image with all the people smiling in the background is a very good depiction of today's society, we lap up violence when it's not us on the receiving end.

  38. i remember watching a video on steve’s death and someone who knew him commented that he wasn’t mentally stable and j.k knew this but still pushed for a lie detector test and so did he because he was 100% adamant he was going to pass. j.k shouldn’t have pushed regardless if he wanted it because of his mental state and the fact that he failed the test after asking for it numerous times makes me think he was actually telling the truth but his mental state led him to fail.

  39. How can you talk about that awful show for 23 minutes? Basically scumbags came on the show and argued and Jeremy Kyle hated every one of them thats it summed up

  40. I just got recommended your video. 12 seconds of dead air in the start of the video is a big turn off for new viewers. Furthermore the intro as well as the product placement brings us to 1:30 into the video, and still nothing has really happened.

    I would heartily suggest you try to put product placement in the middle of the video, so that the viewer is already invested, and avoid dead air as much as possible. I think a lot of viewers watch these kinds of longer form videos with audio only so keep that in mind, especially consider people being alt tabbed. If your advertisements in the middle, I think someone is less likely to alt tab back in to change video, but with it being at the start, It's more of a deterrent on a longer form video.

    I'm just commenting because I find it interesting what the algorithm picks up, but I cannot sit through your video, even though it's a topic that interests me, because it's front loaded with things that are just bothersome. You can be bothersome once you endear me to you! so better watch out in those first few minutes lol.

  41. Wow, I actually had a totally different opinion on this subject until I watched this video… but I didn’t feel like you were jamming anything down my throat, you just made a really informative video that gently made me aware of some other things to take into consideration & other possible ways to look at certain things… I really enjoyed this video a lot, you’ve earned a like & a new subscriber & I look forward to watching some of your other videos… Thank you!!! Much love from Australia!! ☺️✊🏼🇦🇺🐨🦘

  42. I was 100% completely convinced that the entire Jeremy Kyle show was all fake with paid actors. I never believed that people would willingly go on to publicly humilitate themselves. When it came out about the suicide, it really made me think that because it’s actually real it really is the absolute scummiest pond filth absolute horrrible excuses of human beings that made that show and presented it.

  43. I’m wondering what the inbreds who watched this trash are doing now ? Ironing their grey tracksuits ? Buying some new scratch cards ? Shagging their sister ? Scum.

  44. He's kind of right in his book, though. The welfare state is incentivised and due to the habit of humans to take the path of least resistance, why wouldn't they spend their life farting out children and living off the state? But then of course, those people love to shift the blame away from themselves and onto society at large. And people like you only enable them to do so. "It's not my fault, the whole system is broken so I can't succeed!" Yeah, sure it is. Why then, have people in worse situations than you been able to pull themselves out of it?

  45. I found you because of this video and have instantly subscribed. You did an amazing job on this. Please keep it up x

  46. My 8 year old self was right. Jeremy Kyle is "an angry white man", that's literally all I called him

  47. Its pronounced "wains" btw, just for further reference so you don't say it like that in Glasgow and end up glassed lol ahhahaha

  48. Thank God that human virus is off the television , but it was the TV company that aided and abetted that repulsive program . At least we have the classy , intellectual ( and very heterosexual ) Judge Rinder to look forward to every day 😀

  49. ITV admit the lie detectors aren’t 100% so how can Jeremy Kyle say the results are true, which also is one of the problems which caused the show to be axed after what happened

  50. Why did it never occur to any of the guests to state the well known fact that lie detectors are not absolutely accurate and are not admissable in court?

  51. Do one about Ricki Lake: The show that gave women perceived as ugly makeovers and then said they proved that looks aren't important. Which is like hitting someone and then saying you solved the argument non violently.

  52. Humans have become such garbage. They either enjoy tearing people down or they like to watch people being torn down. YouTube has become a negative arena of drama where the most sarcastic, vitriolic, negatively critical, and overly judgmental vids get the most views and these content providers get the most subscribers. Even channels that focus on movie reviews, skepticism, and pop-culture eventually put out some sort of drama content where they attack another channel or content provider. So you go to a channel to watch a video about logical fallacies and get a long rant about some guy from a channel you don't watch talking trash that you had never heard about in the first place. And while people like Kyle and Springer are justly reviled for their terrible shows, the blame is rarely put on the low class audience that drinks their vomit through a straw.

  53. Wow …. at least American trash TV is often hosted by someone who shows empathy. This Jeremy Kyle guy is just a piece of shit.

  54. I screamed when Kyle said it was about education, and I wanted to fling my phone across the room. The fucking doctor told you, to your face, that a lifestyle change was not gonna do shit, and that medical intervention was necessary.

    I want to start a space exploration company just so I can build a rocket and launch Jeremy Kyle into the fucking sun.

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