Exercise Your Faith for Spiritual, Emotional and Physical Health


KENNETH: Hello everybody. I’m
Kenneth Copeland. This is the believers voice
of victory broadcast. Let’s have a word of prayer
together this morning. Father, we thank you and we
praise you. We lift forth praise and honor and glory to the name
of Jesus. We open our hearts. We open our minds for revelation
from heaven, revelation concerning this life of faith
and the wonderful things that you’ve done for us and you’ve
given us and prospered us and we give you praise and honor for
it. We pray it in the name of Jesus. Amen. Praise God. We’re
excited again today. All last week we had such a wonderful
time with Dr. Jackson. Dr. Avery Jackson III, I thought, “boy,
that sound, good doesnt it?”. It is good! Dr. Avery Jackson III,
chief executive officer of Medical Director, Michigan
Neurosurgical Institute, and the Detroit Michigan area. And I’m a
product of Bishop Keith Butler. Deborah Butler in that mighty
church. Praise God! Right there in the Detroit area. In fact,
that’s where I first met Keith, years and years ago. I had heard
about him and I wanted to see for myself and we were having a
meeting at Cobo Hall there in the big arena there in Detroit.
And just flashed a lot of things across my mind, about that
meeting, it was marvelous. Anyway. And so we stayed over
Sunday and went to church, told Gloria, I said, you better watch
this man. I mean, he has got fire in his bones and faith in
his heart, praise God. Raymond graduate. And Dr. Jackson was
literally raised in that church. And you know, it just occurred
to me, I want to say something before we get into the beginning
and the message of this today, you can go ahead and be looking
at first Thessalonians 5, if you want to. And don’t forget to
download the notes. scripture and all of the
outlines and you can study them later. You can teach from them.
Praise God. It’s a wonderful thing to do. You were talking
about the fact that God dropped it in your heart to be a brain
surgeon when you were in grade school. DR. JACKSON: Yes sir.
KENNETH: I’m made a little boy. I want to say this. Listen to me
carefully. If you’re a born again child of God, if you’re
interested at all, And living this life of faith, then we, you
and I do not have the privilege of just picking anything we want
to do in life. And this is something that hasn’t been
taught and it should be that you and particularly you don’t put
your children in this pipeline and just shove them through it
until after they get out of college. Um, I remember a young
man that I, I went to a Oral Roberts university with and I
would just following God, I fully planned on staying there
12 years and then the one at the close of that, that first
semester, I was been a bit shocked, Dr. Jackson at the
Lord said I’m ready for you now. That wouldn’t have been
right for me to stay there as badly as I wanted to. Man. I
found a home in the will of God, but I was about to get out of
the will of God because I liked it in the will of God. DR.
JACKSON: Yup. Understood. KENNETH: And you pray and you
seek God and you tell your children, look, we need to know
what God has called you to do and we’re going to seek God and
we’re going to find out and we’re going to walk in it. Amen.
Now, here’s a young man and of course, Yeah. You know, the
seven year old wants to be a brain surgeon. Well, he’s way
over seven today and he’s a brain surgeon. Amen! Because the
lord dropped it in his heart. Now, particularly in the African
American community, we saw people raised in church, God
loving God, praising people, and music is so predominant in that
community that the great music stars had to leave church to
make a living. Now that’s sad and it cost many of them, even
their lives. I won’t go into all of that, but that’s a very, very
important thing. You watch your children and you see where their
gracious are and you see what they really like. And my dear
friends in heaven today, Lester Sumrall, he was, he said, watch
your children. She what they liked to do and do it with them.
That’s it! That’s it. One of them want to preach, one of them
wants to manufactured boats. I mean, you don’t at attend to
fort that. Now if they want to be a gangster. You changed that.
I had a young guy, and forgive me for telling stories,
but I finally met him. He told me he said I was raised in a
criminal family and he said everybody I knew were criminals
and he said it was the family business and he said, of course
I would end up in penitentiary. And he said, I end up with a
life sentence at 14 years old. But he said I began to hear
things about God and he said, I got born again and then, and
then God rearranged my life and I got out of prison and he said,
the thing that he got saved on was your material and listening
to you. So he said, I got your schedule. And so I would go a
week or two ahead of where you would be and I’d get me a job
washing dishes or something in that area, just to pay for my
food. And he said, and I’d go to the whole meeting and then when
you’d leave I’d quit. And he said, I’d go to wherever your
next appointment was. That was my appointment. He kept doing
that. He kept doing that. He kept doing that. He kept doing
that and end up being the president of a Bible College.
DR. JACKSON: Wow. Praise the Lord! KENNETH: Now
that you know. But now that was his passion. See, but what I
wanted to point out, he was just flowing the way his parents
flowed. Well, our children need to flow the way we flow. And one
of the ways to burn them out on the life of faith is to push
them in some, some direction that they don’t. They just don’t
want to be there. Well, love them, work with them. Amen. Buy
a motorcycle and ride with them. Come on. Do it. Amen. Go to
work! DR. JACKSON: You mentioned, Brother Copeland, but
first of all, I just want to thank you for having me on the
show and the program. It’s just been an honor and you and your
family and everyone, it’s just amazing people. So thank you so
much. KENNETH: Thank you, sir. DR. JACKSON: You mentioned about
some things that were kind of near and dear to your heart as
it related to the family and things that happen to you. And
when you were younger and growing up. And I think that you
had mentioned about the children and that children are just an
important piece. And I think we separate out what seems to be a
secular from the Lord. And I think where we’re missing it is
on being led by him because what looks to be besides the
gangsters, but it looks to be not Christian may not
necessarily be that, or it looks to be not God’s will may not be
the case. Like in my choice, it was this is what you’re going to
do. And I didn’t have a choice. And I said, okay, and that’s
going to be important because we’re going to get into over the
next couple of days, exercise your faith and exercise your
body and exercise your soul, your mind will and emotion. And
I think that is a central theme in what we’re discussing as it
relates to what happens when you start as a child and you work
your way up and God’s got a plan for us all. One of the things
that I just wanted to mention is for me just to give a little bit
of background of who I am as a neurosurgeon and what that
means. So as a neurosurgeon, I started out, as Brother Copeland
mentioned knowing, learning at a young age i was going to be a
neurosurgeon. And what that means is I went to medical
school, I went to the University of Chicago Undergrad and then
medical school at Wayne State University for four years. And
then from there to Northwestern for general surgery. And then
Penn State for my surgery, neurosurgery residency, and then
a complex spine fellowship at the Med College of Wisconsin,
Milwaukee. And then from there ended up and in my current job,
and so I was about 15 years of training after high school, you
know, and so there’s a lot of trials going through that. And
so I think about the kids and you’d mentioned about, you know,
pushing them in one direction. Well, they’re going to get
pretty tired out at some point along the way if, if it’s not
God’s will or God’s best and they know in their heart because
God dropped the, you know, drop that direction into their heart.
And you know, you think about it now, we have 122 specialties and
subspecialties in medicine, and to figure out how complex we are
and how complex God has made us in how to help people. And God
just took one day and he had all the answers like right now.
Right? But we separate him from science and from the how we’re x
supposed to exercise our faith and exercise our health and how
they’re really connected. And so that’s such an important piece.
I think sometimes we dichotomize to him and the exercise and the
science, you know, and one of the areas is in our mental
health, you know, and children when they start out, you know,
they’re exposed to certain situations, and sometimes it’s
just perceived trauma. It may not be real trauma, but then
that leads to some emotional instability and then from there
into chronic pain and even into depression. And so we’ve all
seen people who’ve had issues and phobias and other issues of
that nature where we need to work on exercising our emotional
health and our faith in order to combat some of that. And God,
and his word clearly states that, you know, that we just, we
need to work have faith in him, and then we can overcome some of
that. And so, you know, when we look at science and medicine,
and that’s obviously the area that God dropped me into, you
know, we look at how really that’s about one third of the
equation, the other two thirds of the equation. It’s not just
the physical, you have the spirit and then you have the
soul, which is the mind, will and emotion. And so when you’re
over in that physical side, it’s an okay place to be. I mean,
there’s a lot of advancements we’ve made and we’ve helped a
lot of people in the medical side of things, but without the
other two thirds in God’s perspective from here versus,
you know, being over here and just having the one third
perspective. And oftentimes we don’t have those answers and
we’re pushing, pushing. And we mean well but I think that’s
when we can kind of get off as supposed to listening to the
Holy Spirit, what do you have for us? KENNETH: Well, and this
is where the time spent not only praying, but listening and
meditation in the word. When God, Joshua was in trouble, he’d
followed Moses for all of these years. Moses made every decision
and he followed it to the letter. And you think about the
situation that he was in the last time he was over there,
there was a lot of John’s in that land. And you think about
him thinking it’s on his mind, man, I’ve got to face these guys
and I haven’t been there in a long time. And I’m wondering
what’s there now. So what was God’s answer? Pray. Well, yeah,
but meditate, meditate my word night and day. And then you will
observe, you will see into how to prosper and deal wisely. Now
that’s what we’re looking for. Yeah. Okay. So if you spend that
time for and with your children, you spend that time. I’m still
doing that because I’m still responsible for this. And just
the fact that I was blessed and beyond measure. and allowed to
serve and praise God in this kind of ministry. But the more
expanded, the more responsible for it I became and it never
gets easy, but if you do it right, it never gets hard. Now I
spent some hard times at this because I was not doing that.
And I got my nose bloodied and and other things that I, that I
was doing a shouldn’t be doing and should be doing things I was
not doing, but I had to go back to the basic fundamentals of it
all. Now don’t you have to do that in surgery? DR. JACKSON:
Yes sir. And when you were speaking, an example rose up in
me that the Lord gave me, and that is there’s a case where I
was operating on an aneurysm. So that’s where as a blood vessel
in the brain, and it hemorrhages, it ruptures and the
person comes in and she was basically in a coma. So we had
to rush her to the operating room, got her prepped, had to
take her the skull off after she was anesthetized. And now I’m
operating in a space that’s about five inches by five inches
by about four inches deep, full of blood. And now I’ve got a
fish down to get that blood vessel closed and the feeding
blood vessels closed to stop that bleeding. I’ve got about
four minutes to do that. Okay. Because at the rate and power of
that, that blood flow, she’s gonna lose 50% of her blood
volume in a short amount of time and then she’s going to die. And
so there’s a fair amount of stress there, obviously, right?
You can’t see, or you have to go and you’re, you know, if you, if
you get out of faith and you get out of listening to the Holy
Spirit, you know, the stress level goes through the roof and
then the blood pressure we talked about the other day goes
through the roof and you’re really stressed. And so just ask
the Lord to help guide my hands. And so we’ve got a suction in
there. We put some temporary clips on the, the feeding
vessels, and then we’re able to clip the, the vessel that was
bleeding, take those temporary clips off and then close the
skull back. And she did fine ultimately. But you know, the
stress that you can kind of feel is that, you know, being in
God’s will and exercising faith and exercising in that the mind
will and emotion and in the soul and in the physical. Because
when you get stressed out, blood vessels constrict and your
coordination changes. And so when you’re outside of his will,
like in that case and that surgery had I second guessed
myself, had I not listened to the Holy Spirit, all those
areas would have been, would have been out of sinking out
order. But having the peace of God, I was able to calmly get in
there and take care of what I had to take care of. And then
she did well. So that’s definitely an example that
happened to me. And so again with God and listening and
spending time with him verses without. KENNETH: Praise. God,
are you praying in the spirit just under your breath? DR.
JACKSON: Yes sir. The whole time I get in the operating room. So
here we go. Yeah, let’s go. I have this painting. That’s by
Nate green and it’s called be thou my vision. And, and there
is a surgeon who’s got the microscope in the field and the
patient’s positioned on their back and the surgeons doing
brain surgery from the side. And Jesus is standing right there
directing his vision in surgery. Yeah. And so that’s one of one
of my paintings I have. And I, when I walked by that I’ve got
one at home and in the office that just, you know, reminds me
of his presence and what he’s done for us and how he’s made us
intricately and then how he’s there for us to guide us. You
know, at all times so. KENNETH: You know what just occurred to
me. The ministry into which God call me has had the privilege
and the honor of feeding your faith and preparing you to do
that. Praise God. DR. JACKSON: Thank you. Since I was a little
boy. You come to Detroit and we take the bus and see you
whenever we could. KENNETH: Don’t tell me churches. Local
church that preaches and teaches faith and love and these
powerful spiritual principles produce life saving people like
this. And it’s the same thing. It’s the same thing when you’ve
got a policeman that’s called to do that job. And I had a young
man, it was a police officer and almost the same thing came up on
this ministry and so forth. And he said it had happened to him
over and over again. He told me about one situation. He’s
sitting in the car with his partner and this call came
through and he was sitting there praying in the
spirit about it and the Lord said and told him exactly where
the guy was. And his partner says, we need to and he said no,
just go over there and turn to that, and then the guy was
there. And his life had been saved because he knew who/where
the danger was, this is life in the faith lane. Praise God. And
all of us working together. We help people and save lives.
Glory to God. There’s good stuff. Go ahead. DR. JACKSON:
Yes sir. So sometimes when we think about the Lord and we
think about medicine, science, there’s a difference. we
separate those two. But God created our DNA he created the
stem cells when the sperm and the egg mom and dad come
together, he was the author of all of the detail in that. So
he’s the one who is the author of the science. And oftentimes
when we think about our health and exercising, you know our
health in these areas, in our authority in these areas will
tend to separate him from the science that he created. And
when you look at it, for instance, God created our DNA.
And so that in and of itself is a premeditated love because
within that DNA there’s reparative mechanisms. And it’s
so stem cells that repair injured tissue, injured brain.
When we’re older, broken bones, you know, surgeons, we help, we
can cut, we can sew. But we can’t heal. KENNETH: That’s
right. Yeah, that’s true! DR. JACKSON: He heals. He heals
that. And he did that in premeditated love before we were
even formed in our mother’s wombs for us. And so I think
that’s an important piece to take home when you’re seeking
the Lord for your health, then you’re exercising your faith in
the tri-part area and who you are as a spirit person and your
mind will and emotion. And then the physical as well is that
he’s the author and he knows, he put it all together. He knows
all the specifics and then DNA and stem cells. And so the other
piece is, you know, there’s a scripture Proverbs 17:22. A
merry heart doeth good like a medicine: right? And, but with a
broken spirit that can dry up your bones. Well, it’s kind of
interesting. So the bones have bone marrow, right? And what’s
bone marrow? Stem cells? Bone marrow is stem cells. So what
happens is, is that when you’re not exercising your faith and in
the soul there’s depression. What that depression can have an
effect on your stem cells and the bone marrow. And you can try
the bones up that way, literally! KENNETH: And the book
knew what it was talking about all the time. DR. JACKSON: Yes
sir. It’s right in there. KENNETH: And we’re out of time.
Come on. ANNOUNCER: We hope you enjoyed
today’s teaching from Kenneth Copeland Ministries, and
remember Jesus is Lord.

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