EWTN Live – 2017-11-29 – Sr. Briege Mckenna

EWTN Live – 2017-11-29 – Sr. Briege Mckenna


>>EVERY DAY PRIESTS AROUND THE WORLD ARE MINISTERING THE LOVE OF JESUS TO PEOPLE THEY COME IN CONTACT WITH. BUT PRIESTS ALSO NEED MINISTERING TO FROM TIME TO TIME. WE’LL TALK ABOUT THAT NEED TONIGHT AND HOW THE LORD CAN MIRACULOUSLY RESPOND TO IT. SO PLEASE STAY WITH US. ♪ [APPLAUSE]>>Father: THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I’M FATHER MITCH PACWA. WELCOME TO EWTN LIVE WHERE WE BRING YOU GUESTS FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD. AND BEFORE WE GET TO THE GUEST, I WANT TO MENTION TODAY IS THE FEAST OF A JESUIT WHO WAS BEATIFIED IN 2010. BLESSED BERNARDO DE HOYOS, SJ BORN IN 1711 AND DIDN’T LIVE VERY LONG DYING IN 1735. EARLY ON, HE HAD MYSTICAL VISIONS IN WHICH CHRIST APPEARED TO HIM. AND IN THIS 24 SHORT YEARS OF BEING ON EARTH, HE INTRODUCED THE DEVOTION TO THE SACRED HEART IN SPAIN. HE WAS THE PRIMARY APOSTLE OF THE SACRED HEART TO SPAIN. AND IT TOOK VERY DEEP ROOTS BECAUSE OUR LORD TOLD HIM, SPAIN WILL BE THE COUNTRY WHERE THE GREATEST DEVOTION TO THE SACRED HEART IS. SO, HE SPENT HIS LIFE DOING THAT. AND THIS IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT. SOMETHING CELEBRATING THE FEAST IN WHICH THE POPE ASKED US TO REDEDICATE OURSELVES TO THE SACRED HEART OF JESUS. AND WE SHOULD DO THAT FOR SURE. OUR GUEST TONIGHT ENTERED HER EARLY LIFE HERE WITH MOTHER ANGELICA AND SHE ENTERED RELIGIOUS LIFE AT THE AGE OF FIFTEEN, AND NINE YEARS LATER RECEIVED A MIRACULOUS PHYSICAL HEALING FROM THE LORD WHICH SET HER ON A PATH OF PRAYING FOR OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD FOR HEALING AS WELL, INCLUDING A SPECIAL GIFT OF INTERCESSION FOR CATHOLIC PRIESTS. HERE TO TELL US MORE ABOUT IT, PLEASE WELCOME THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK, MIRACLES DO HAPPEN – GOD CAN DO THE IMPOSSIBLE. FROM THE ORDER OF ST. CLARE, SR. BRIEGE MCKENNA. SISTER BRIEGE WELCOME.>>THANK YOU.>>Father: ARE YOU DOING WELL?>>DOING VERY WELL, YOU KNOW THAT SISTERS HAVE THE GREATEST LONGEVITY OF ANY GROUP IN OUR COUNTRY. AND LONGEVITY OF ANY GROUP IN OUR COUNTRY. SECOND OLDEST NOT NUNS. AND THIRD OLDEST MARRIED WOMEN, THEN MARRIED MEN AND THEN SINGLE MEN. AND YOU KNOW WHAT THAT INDICATES, DON’T YOU? MEN NEED WOMEN A LOT MORE THAN WOMEN NEED MEN!>>Guest: WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT THE LORD HAS REALLY BLESSED ME WITH A LONG LIFE ALREADY. SO, I’M VERY GRATEFUL. IT’S GREAT TO HAVE YOU. YOU ARE NOT SITTING AROUND EATING BONBONS, ARE YOU? NOW, I’M NOT SITTING AROUND. MY FIRST GRACE I RECEIVED WAS MY HEALING. AND I DIDN’T THINK I WOULD BE SO ACTIVE GETTING UP CLOSE TO MY 70’S. I WORKED WITH FATHER SCALLON, LAST 42 YEARS. AND WE DO MISSIONS. MAIN MISSIONS, RETREATS FOR PRIESTS ALL OVER THE WORLD. AND THE OTHER IS, NOT BEING A DAUGHTER OF CHARITY, I WORK WITH THE VINCENTIANS. AND NOW, IN THAT, I OFTEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MINISTER ALSO, EUCHARISTIC HEALING SERVICE. A PAREN MISSION WAS SOMETHING VERY POPULAR IN TIMES PAST. SORT OF THE CATHOLIC VERSION OF A REVIVAL.>>Guest: WHEN FATHER KEVIN AND MYSELF MET AFTER THE FOUNDING OF THIS PROGRAM WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT THE INTERCESSION FOR PRIESTS, THEN IT WAS A GREAT ANSWER TO PRAYER. I PRAY WHEN I GET INTO THE HEALING MINISTRY MYSELF AND I WENT TO THE LORD’S TO PRAY TO OUR BLESSED LADY TO KEEP ME IN THE HEART OF THE CHURCH. AND MEETING FATHER KEVIN AND WORKING WITH THE PARISH PRIESTS, WE SAY, IT’S A REVIVAL. WE SEE A WONDERFUL RESPONSE. AND ESPECIALLY TO THE SACRAMENTS OF RECONCILIATION. SOME PRIESTS ARE THERE 3, 4 HOURS HEARING CONFESSIONS ON OPENING NIGHT. AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE PRIESTHOOD. AND FATHER KEVIN SPEAKS ON THE PRIESTHOOD OF THE LAITY AND SO, SACRAMENTAL LIFE OF THE CHURCH. IT’S VERY REWARDING BECAUSE WE SEE TREMENDOUS RESULTS. IN TERMS OF RESULTS, WHAT’S IT THAT YOU LOOK FOR IN TERMS OF PARISH RENEWAL, POSITIVE FRUITS AND GRACES.>>THAT PEOPLE FALL IN LOVE WITH JESUS AND WITH OUR CATHOLIC FAITH! THAT THEY COME TO TREASURE THE SACRAMENTS. I’LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. SOMETIME AGO, WE WERE GIVING A PARISH MISSION AND BECAUSE OF THE HEALING MINISTRY, IT ATTRACTS PEOPLE. IF THEY HEAR SISTER BRIEGE IS GOING TO BE THERE, YOU KNOW, IT’S KIND OF CLOSE TO A UNIVERSITY. AND THIS YOUNG GIRL CAME LOOKING FOR SISTER, SISTER BRIEGE AND THAT WAS THE NIGHT OF CONFESSION AND SHE HEARD FATHER KEVIN SPEAKING ABOUT SIN. THAT’S NOT OFTEN SPOKEN ABOUT, SEXUALITY AND SIN AND ALL THOSE THINGS. SO, AFTERWARDS, I DIDN’T SEE HER BUT SHE WENT TO CONFESSION AND CAME DOWN TO ME IN THE PEW AFTERWARDS. SHE WAS IN TEARS. SHE SAID THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I’M GONE TO CONFESSION SINCE I MADE MY FIRST CONFESSION. AND SHE SAID, TONIGHT, I HAVE HAD A LIFE-CHANGING EXPERIENCE. AND SHE SAID, I CAME THINKING I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FROM YOU. I’M GOING HOME AND TRY TO BRING MY CLASSMATES AND COME TO THE MISSION. WHICH SHE DID. AND THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS, PEOPLE WILL COME AND THINK THEY ARE JUST GOING TO HEAR ABOUT HEALING BUT LIKE WE TALK ABOUT IT, FOR EVANGELIZATION, WHAT TREASURES THEY HAVE. AND SO, BOTH OF US, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN PRAYER AND WE MEET THE PEOPLE PERSONALLY AFTERWARDS, IT’S A GREAT GRACE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE CLERGY. BLESSED POPE JOHN PAUL AND LOTS OF CATHOLICS HAVE BEEN SACRAMENTALIZED BUT NOT CATECHIZED AND EVANGELIZED. AND THERE’S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EVANGELIZATION AND CATECHESIS. AND YOU HAVE STARTED DOING THE EVANGELIZATION.>>THAT’S RIGHT. AND I HEARD A GREAT PHRASE A COUPLE DAYS AGO THAT REALLY STUCK WITH ME. YOU KNOW, JESUS HAS A LOT OF FANS. BUT TO HAVE COMMITTED FOLLOWERS AND CHRISTIANS, YOU KNOW, REALLY GOOD I NEED OF DISCIPLES. THAT’S A DIFFERENT THING. YOU CAN GO TO CHURCH AND, YOU KNOW, DOESN’T MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU. SO, FOR MYSELF, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO ME TO ASK ME TO PRAY FOR HEALING, I TELL YOU, FATHER MITCH, I HAVE SEEN MIRACLES THROUGH THE EUCHARIST. AND I HAVE SEEN PEOPLES’ LIVES COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY TRANSFORMED. I TELL PEOPLE. I’LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLES. SOMEBODY CAME TO ME SHE WAS TOLD SHE HAD A COUPLE WEEKS TO LIVE, WITH A VERY SEVERE CANCER. AND I SAID TO HER AND PEOPLE SAY, IT’S NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT TO DO THAT. AND I SAID, ARE YOU CATHOLIC. AND I MEAN, IF THEY ARE CHRISTIAN, I TELL THEM, GO TO YOUR CHURCH. BUT I SAY, IF THEY ARE CATHOLIC, I WANT TO FIND OUT. AND I SAID, ARE YOU CATHOLIC. AND SHE SAID, YEAH, BUT I FIND MASS BORING. SO, I LOOKED AT HER AND I TOLD YOU THAT JESUS IS DOWN IN THE CHURCH, JUST DOWN THE STREET. AND HE’S PERSONALLY THERE, BODY, BLOOD, SOUL AND DIVINITY, AND HE’S WAITING FOR ME. WAITING FOR YOU. WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE, SISTER BRIEGE OR JESUS? AND I TOLD HER A LITTLE BIT.>>Father: WAIT A MINUTE. WHAT WAS THE CHOICE? WHAT DID SHE WANT TO SAY?>>Guest: WELL, SHE’S LOOKING AT ME AND I SAID, DO YOU REALLY REALIZE WHAT THE EUCHARIST IS? SHE SAID, PART OF IT IS SIN, BUT I NEVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD, SISTER. AND I SAID, IF THAT’S TRUE. GO HOME, GET YOUR HUSBAND AND FIVE CHILDREN. THERE’S MASS AT 4:00. GO TO MASS. TALK TO YOURSELF. YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN A WORLD THAT’S SO DISTRACTING AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WELL, I’M NOT SURE, IS IT REALLY TRUE. AND I SAID, THAT IS JESUS. YOU GO TO CONFESSION. SHE HADN’T BEEN FOR YEARS. AND TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT. SHE WENT. AND THE NEXT EVENING, AT THE END OF THE CONFERENCE THAT I WAS GIVING, SHE CAME BACK. AND SHE SAID, SISTER, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, YESTERDAY, THAT I REALLY CELEBRATED MASS. AND THREE DAYS LATER, SHE SAID, I DON’T KNOW IF I AM HEALED. I HAVE NO IDEA. BUT I HAVE SUCH A JOY AND SUCH A PEACE, THANK YOU. NOW I KNOW, IT’S NOT JUST A FEELING. BECAUSE I KEPT SAYING TO HER, YOU DON’T FEEL JESUS. YOU LOVE JESUS. YOU NEED JESUS. AND THEN SHE WAS HEALED THREE DAYS LATER. OH, I SEE IT ALL THE TIME. IN LORETO, ITALY –>>LORETO, ITALY THAT’S THE SHRINE OF OUR LADY, ON THE EAST COAST OF ITALY.>>Guest: RIGHT. RIGHT. AND WE HAD A RETREAT FOR PRIESTS. ON THE LAST NIGHT OF THE RETREAT, WHILE WE DON’T USE TERMINOLOGY OF THE CHARISMATICS, I TELL THEM ALL, WE’RE ALL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. BUT WE SPEAK A LOT ABOUT THE CHARISMS AND THE GIFTS, AND FATHER KEVIN IS ALWAYS SAYING TO THE PRIEST, WE HAVE TO PRAY FOR THE RENEWAL OF ORDINATION AND THE CHARISM. AND SO, THE FIRST NIGHT IS CONFESSION AND THE LAST NIGHT, THEY SAID, COULDN’T WE GIVE TESTIMONY WITNESS, WHICH WE DON’T DO. AND THREE PRIESTS GOT UP. IT WAS NOT ABOUT SISTER BRIEGE PRAYING WITH THEM. THREE OF THEM HAD MIRACULOUS HEALING AND INTERVENTION WITH CONFESSION. AND WHEN THEY GOT UP TO WITNESS, I FELT THE LORD WAS SAYING, I’M ALLOWING THIS TO SHOW ALL THESE HUNDRED OR SO WHATEVER PRIESTS THERE, THE POWER OF THE SACRAMENTS, THAT IS, JESUS AND ONE WAS HEALED OF A PARALYZED ARM. ONE WAS LEAVING THE PRIESTHOOD AND THE OTHER ONE HAD A BAD BACK. AND HALF THE WORLD HAS A BAD BACK BUT HE GOT HEALED. AND THESE ARE THE KIND OF, IT’S A VERY INTERESTING AND GRACE-FILLED MINISTRY BECAUSE FATHER MITCH, I LOVE EUCHARISTIC ADORATION AND IT’S A GREAT DEVOTION, SINCLAIR AS IT IS DEPICTED. BUT I SAY TO PEOPLE, WHEN YOU COME TO ADORATION YOU DON’T LOSE YOUR ENTHUSIASM BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THE PRESENCE OF JESUS. AND IT’S GRAY TO GO OUT AND SPREAD THAT ALL OVER THE WORLD.>>OFTENTIMES I GO OUT AND I THINK OF THE WOMAN WITH 12 YEARS OF HEMORRHAGE AND THE GOSPEL. AND THE DISTINCTION THAT YOU MADE BEFORE AND WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW REMINDS ME OF THAT. THERE WAS A BIG CROWD SHOVING AGAINST JESUS AND BUMPING INTO HIM. BUT THIS WOMAN ENCOUNTERED JESUS WITH FAITH SO THAT EVERYBODY IS BUMPING INTO HIM AND SHE’S TOUCHING HIM. AND SHE GOT HEALED BECAUSE SHE TOUCHED HIM WITH FAITH. AND NOT JUST BUMPING AROUND. SOMETIMES I FEAR THAT A LOT OF CHRISTIANS, CATHOLICS AND NON CATHOLICS ALIKE ARE LIKE THE CROWD BUMPING INTO JESUS BUT NOT REACHING OUT WITH THE FAITH OF THAT WOMAN AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN THESE RETREATS AND PARISH MISSIONS IS INVITING PEOPLE TO REACH OUT AND TOUCH JESUS LIKE THAT WOMAN DID.>>AND OFTEN, I HAVE USED THAT SCRIPTURE BECAUSE I TELL THEM, THERE’S TWO KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO CHURCH. THERE ARE THOSE WHO PHYSICALLY THERE, THOSE THERE WITH EXPECTING FAITH AND TO PRAISE GOD. AND AS YOU SAID, SHE REACHED OUT AND WE SEE THIS, YOU KNOW, I OFTEN THINK BEFORE WE HAVE THE EUCHARISTIC HEALING SERVICE AND FATHER KEVIN WALKS AROUND THE CHURCH AT THE STADIUM OR WHATEVER IT IS, WITH THE MONSTRANCE. AND I TELL PEOPLE, LOOK, THIS IS JESUS! HE’S GOING TO BE LOOKING AT YOU! AND REMEMBER, A LITTLE BOY CAME TO ME IN NORTHERN IRELAND. AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE WAS VERY SICK AND THAT HIS GRANNY WAS SICK FOR HIM. AND I SAID, DID YOU MAKE YOUR FIRST COMMUNE. AND HE SAID NO. AND SO, I SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE’S GOING TO A EUCHARISTIC HEALING SERVICE AND I SAID YOU COME. YOU ARE GOING TO SEE JESUS. HE’S GOING TO BE IN A BIG WHITE HOST. AND WHEN JESUS COMES TO YOU, YOU TALK TO HIM! AND CHILDREN ARE LIKE SPONGES. THEY TAKE YOU LITERALLY. SO, FATHER COMES DOWN THE AISLE, THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL CELEBRATION AND THIS LITTLE BOY IS WATCHING AND HE HEARD WHAT I SAID. SO, HE JUMPED OUT OF THE SEAT. HE PUT HIS HAND UP AND SAID, STOP AND AT THE TOP OF HIS VOICE, HE SAID JESUS, MY GRANNY IS VERY SICK AND COULD YOU HELP ME. AND EVERYBODY WAS IN TEARS. AND HE STOOD THERE TALKING. AND YOU WOULD KNOW THAT HE REALLY BELIEVED WHAT I SAID. SO, HE WAITED A MOMENT AND EVERYBODY WAS IN TEARS AND HE THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE JESUS IS GOING TO TALK BACK TO ME. AND THEN, HE WENT DOWN BACK TO HIS SEAT. I NEVER KNEW WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE CHILD. UNTIL ABOUT 2 OR 3 WEEKS LATER, THE GRANDMOTHER WROTE TO ME. AND SHE SAID, THAT THIS LITTLE BOY HAD ONE KIDNEY REMOVED WHEN HE WAS 2 YEARS OF AGE. AND HE’S NOW 6. THE OTHER KIDNEY IS NOW CANCER AND HE’S GOING INTO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HIM. AND HE WENT INTO THE HOSPITAL, ON A SUNDAY THAT THIS HAPPENED. AND HE WENT ON A TUESDAY. AND THEY WERE GOING TO DO THE EXPLORATORY SURGERY TO SEE IF THEY COULD DO ANYTHING FOR HIM. REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT HIM. AND THEN WHEN HE WENT IN, HE HAD A BRAND NEW KIDNEY. SO, I MET HIM THREE YEARS LATER. I WAS BACK IN THAT CITY GIVING A MISSION. AND THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE BOY CAME IN. AND HE SAID TO ME, DO YOU REMEMBER ME? AND HIS GRANDMOTHER DIED WAS THERE, AND I SAID TO HIM, JUDE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND HE JUST LOOKED AT ME AND HE SAID, SISTER BRIEGE, JESUS IS BRILLIANT AND YOU ARE BRILLIANT TOO. AND WHAT THE WOMAN SHOWED, THIS CHILD’S FAITH. THAT’S SUCH A GRACE FOR US TO SEE. WE GET MANY. JACKIE BACK AT THE OFFICE, WE GET MANY, MANY TESTIMONIES OF PEOPLE.>>Fr. Pacwa: IT SEEMS, AND THIS APPLIES TO LAITY AND CLERGY ALIKE. SOMETIMES THERE ALMOST SEEMS TO BE A FEAR. WELL, JESUS, MAYBE HE WON’T DO ANYTHING SO WE’LL HEDGE OUR BETS. WE’LL JUST MAKE OURSELVES THE CENTER OF ATTENTION JUST IN CASE JESUS DOESN’T DO ANYTHING FOR US. THAT’S A FEAR THAT I SENSE UNDERLYING. AND THAT WATERS DOWN THE CHRISTIAN LIFE. FATHER MITCH.>>Guest: FATHER MITCH, I LOVE MY WORK WITH PRIESTS. I REALLY INFIRM THEM AND ENCOURAGE THEM. IT’S NOT AN EASY MINISTRY. AND ONE OF THINGS I SAY, IF YOU GO INTO ANY UNIVERSITY LAST 10, 15 YEARS, ALL OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE LEARNING HOW TO MARKET GADGETS, ELECTRONICS, TOYS FOR CHILDREN.>>Fr. Pacwa: AND ADULTS. MORE EXPENSIVE TOYS FOR ADULTS.>>Guest: SO IN ORDER FOR THEM TO HAVE TO BE GOOD AND BELIEVE, TO CONVINCE THE PEOPLE TO LEAD THEM. I SAY TO PRIESTS AS WELL AS TO MYSELF, WELL, WE HAVE THE MOST WONDERFUL GOSPEL AND JESUS, TO MARKET, AND I SAY, YOU GET 15, 20 MINUTES EVERY SUNDAY MORNING WITH THE MOST WONDERFUL MESSAGE AND WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WELL, SISTER BRIEGE, I WOULD BE AFRAID OF GIVING THEM FALSE HOPE. AND I SAY, YES, IF I PREACHED WHAT YOU JUST SAID, YEAH. BUT YOU NEVER GIVE FALSE HOPE WHEN YOU PREACH JESUS. AND FOR EXAMPLE, THE HEALING MINISTRY. AND PEOPLE COME AND THEY SAY TO ME, I’M NOT SURE, MAYBE IT’S NOT GOD’S WILL OR MAYBE I’M NOT GOOD ENOUGH. AND I SAY TO THEM, LOOK IT, JESUS LOVES YOU TO ASK. THE MORE YOU ASK, YOUR FAITH GROWS AND HIS WILL WILL HAPPEN. AND IN THE PROCESS, YOU GET DIVINE GRACE. AND I SEE MANY, MANY PEOPLE, THE FEAR. THE RESULT OF FEAR OF PREACHING THE GOSPEL.>>Fr. Pacwa: AMONGST PRIESTS?>>Guest: OH, YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH FATHER KEVIN. AND HE’S VERY GENTLE AND HE’S VERY CLEAR IN HIS TEACHINGS OF THE SCRIPTURES. I REMEMBER BEING IN A PLACE AND HE SPOKE ON THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE AND FAMILY LIFE. SOMETHING THAT, SOMEBODY ATTACKED HIM AFTERWARDS. WE WERE VERY SURPRISED. BUT IT WAS COMPLETELY AGAINST ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD BELIEVE. AND THEY WENT ON AND ON. AND HE WAS SO PATIENT. AND HE SAID, NO, NO, THESE ARE JESUS’ WORDS, THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS. AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVICTION IN YOURSELF. IF YOU ARE REALLY GOING OUT TO LOOK FOR POPULARITY OR YOU ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO LOVE YOU OR TO BE POPULAR. YOU KNOW, THAT’S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE SCRIPTURE. IT’S NOT THE HONOR OF PEOPLE THAT WE LOOK FOR.>>Fr. Pacwa: NO. NO.>>Guest: AND I HAVE LEARNED IN MY YEARS OF MINISTRY, IT’S NICE TO BE LOVED. BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SAY THINGS THAT ARE NOT EASY.>>THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I HAVE EMPHASIZED WITH A NUMBER OF YOUNGER PRIESTS. THAT’S WHY THEY CALL US FATHER.>>Fr. Pacwa: MY FATHER HAD HARD THINGS TO SAY BECAUSE I NEEDED DISCIPLINE. AND HE WAS GOING TO GIVE IT TO ME WHETHER I THOUGHT I WOULD LIKE IT OR NOT. WHETHER I THOUGHT I WOULD LIKE HIM OR NOT. HE DIDN’T CARE. AS HE USED TO SAY, I’M NOT YOUR FRIEND. I’M YOUR FATHER. SO, YOU DO THIS. AND THAT WAS THE WAY IT WAS. AND THAT HE WOULD SAY, YOU ARE GOING TO THANK ME FOR THIS ONE DAY. BUT IT WAS NEVER THAT DAY! [LAUGHTER] BUT LATER ON, YES. BECAUSE HE HAD A FATHER’S LOVE WITH THE CLARITY OF, THIS IS THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE TO GO IN YOUR LIFE. AND WE PRIESTS VERY MUCH NEED TO UNDERSTAND, WE’RE NOT SPIRITUAL UNCLES. WE’RE SPIRITUAL FATHERS. UNCLES GIVE THE KIDS CANDY AND SPOIL. FATHERS MAKE YOU EAT YOUR VEGETABLES.>>WELL, THAT’S THE PROCLAMATION OF THE GOSPEL. I THINK HERE ON THE SHOW ONE NIGHT, YOUNG PEOPLE DON’T WANT HALF TRUTHS. THEY REALLY WANT THE TRUTH. AND THE SAME THING FOR COMMITMENT WITH LIKE. IF YOU PREACH JESUS, PROGRAMS WERE WONDERFUL AND I USED THE EXAMPLE OF SAINT PATRICK. WHEN SAINT PATRICK CAME TO IRELAND TO A COUNTRY OF PAGANS, HIGH RITUAL PAGANISM.>>Fr. Pacwa: AND ROUGH CHARACTERS!>>Guest: OH, YEAH, I’M SURE.>>Fr. Pacwa: JUST SO FOLKS UNDERSTAND, THE IRISH WERE CRAZY. THEY WERE SO NASTY, THE BARBARIANS WERE AFRAID TO INVADE IRELAND!>>Guest: THEY WILL BE LOOKING FOR YOUR HEAD IN IRELAND WHEN THEY HEAR YOU.>>Fr. Pacwa: OH, THINK THEY ARE PROUD OF IT!>>Guest: AND FATHER MITCH, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT THERE.>>AND PATRICK WENT TO IRELAND. HE THINKS WITH IT. — THINKS ABOUT IT. AND YOU REMEMBER THE PASSAGE, JESUS SAID, ARE YOU THE ONE THAT’S COMING OR SHOULD WE LOOK FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. AND JESUS SAID, GO BACK AND TELL THE PEOPLE WHAT YOU HEAR AND WHAT YOU SEE. I BELIEVE THE GREATEST PROCLAMATION OF THE GOSPEL IS THIS. AND PATRICK WENT TO IRELAND AND THE MIRACLES HAPPENED. AND GO TO AFRICA, ANY PLACE, AMERICA, AND IT WAS THE PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL THAT TOOK AWAY BLINDS AND IGNORANCE. SO, THAT’S WHY I THINK, I SAY TO THE PRIEST AROUND THE WORLD, TO THE BISHOPS, YOU NEVER HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR PREACHING THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST. IT IS POWERFUL AND FOR YOU, AS A PRIEST, I MEAN, YOU GET UP ON A SUNDAY MORNING AND YOU ARE GUARANTEED. AND WHEN YOU SPEAK, JESUS WILL WORK THROUGH YOU.>>JUST SO I DON’T LOSE THE AUDIENCE, SAINT PATRICK’S TEACHING CHANGED THEM FROM FEARFUL PEOPLE TO SAINTS AND SCHOLARS.>>RIGHT. SAINTS AND SCHOLARS. AND WE HAVE TO PRAY FOR THEM AGAIN. WE NEED ANOTHER NEW SAINT PATRICK.>>RIGHT. ALL OF EUROPE NEEDS A PATRICK, BONIFACE, ENGLAND EVERYWHERE, PREACHERS OF THE GOSPEL AND LOVE JESUS CHRIST.>>FATHER MITCH, FATHER GOES TO POLAND, ENGLAND, IRELAND, AND JUST FOR RETREATS. AND FATHER KEVIN HAD INTERCESSION AND THERE ARE WONDERFUL PRIESTS THERE AND JUST NEED A LOT OF ENCOURAGEMENT AND PRAYERS. THAT’S WHAT WE DO. WE TRY IN THIS PROGRAM, FATHER KEVIN FOUNDED. ENCOURAGE PRIESTS, AFFIRM THEM AND CHALLENGE THEM. AND WE MEET, PEOPLE SAY TO ME, OH, THE PRIESTHOOD. WELL, I DON’T LOOK AT THAT. I LOOK AT THE MEN THAT HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES AND ARE OUT THERE, EVERY DAY. AND WE USED TO GO ALL OVER THE WORLD BUT WE’RE GETTING TOO OLD. WE STICK WITH EUROPE AND AMERICA.>>Fr. Pacwa: I UNDERSTAND. I’M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU.>>Guest: WE’LL JUST STICK WITH TELEVISION.>>NOW, EVEN IN IRELAND, I’M VERY AFFIRMING OF THE PRO LIFE PEOPLE. I REALLY PRAY FOR THEM AND THIS YEAR AT KNOCK, I TRIED TO ENCOURAGE. I SPEAK AT KNOCK EVERY YEAR, THE SHRINE AND I BEG THE PRIEST TO GET INVOLVED BECAUSE WE HAVE A REFERENDUM COMING UP, YOU KNOW, TO INTRODUCE ABORTION. AND YOU HAVE AMERICANS SEND AGO LOT OF MONEY TO IRELAND TO FINANCE PRO DEATH.>>Guest: YES. YES. A LOT. AND WITH THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE, ALL OF THE MONEY FLOWED IN.>>AND ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS, THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN IRELAND WHO ARE REALLY OUT THERE. DOOR TO DOOR. AND FATHER KEVIN AND MYSELF, FATHER KEVIN SAID MASS FOR THEM. I TRY TO AFFIRM AND ENCOURAGE THEM. PRAY FOR IRELAND. I LOVE IRELAND.>>Fr. Pacwa: I DO PRAY FOR THEM. IT’S IMPORTANT FOR THEM AND THE REST OF THE WORLD TO BE ALERT. THAT DEATH IS GOD’S ENEMY. THAT CHRIST WILL SUBJECT UNDER HIS FEET THOSE THAT CHOOSE DEATH AS THEIR ALLY ARE CHOOSING AGAINST GOD. IF YOU THINK THAT YOUR SOLUTION TO THE WORLD’S PROBLEM IS TO KILL BABIES OR KILL THE SICK AND THE ELDERLY, YOU HAVE CHOSEN SATAN AND YOU ARE CHOSEN AGAINST GOD. THING ABOUT IRELAND IS THAT IT’S NOT BEING IMPOSED, WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A REFERENDUM AND IN THAT, WE AS A DEMOCRACY, THEY VOTE. I DON’T VOTE, BECAUSE I’M AN AMERICAN FOR 50 YEARS. I PRAY A LOT. AND YOU CAN’T SAY, OH, I’M VERY PRO LIFE AND YOU HAVE THE VOICE. SO, PRAY. AND WE PRAY THAT WE’RE ON THE WINNING SIDE BECAUSE WE’RE ON THE RIGHT SIDE WITH THE LORD.>>IT’S A STRUGGLE. IT’S A STRUGGLE. AND THAT’S WHY WE’VE DONE A LOT ABOUT “THE LORD OF THE RINGS.” THAT GIVES A GOOD IMAGE FOR THE KIND OF STRUGGLE AGAINST EVIL THAT WE’RE ENGAGED IN. AND IT’S IMPORTANT. ALSO, WE’RE IN A STRUGGLE AGAINST THE CLOCK. WE HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK. BUT WE’LL COME BACK IN 2 MINUTES AND FOR QUESTIONS FOR SISTER BRIEGE AS WELL AS THOSE OF OUR STUDIO AUDIENCE. SO, PLEASE, STAY WITH US. [APPLAUSE] ♪ ♪ [APPLAUSE]>>Fr. Pacwa: ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW IS THAT SISTER BRIDGE MCKENNA’S BOOK, MIRACLES DO HAPPEN, AS WELL AS THE AUDIO BOOK VERSION OF IT IS AVAILABLE AT OUR RELIGIOUS CATALOGUE. YOU CAN GO ONLINE TO ewtnRC.com OR YOU CAN CALL 1-800-854-6316. YOU CAN ORDER HER BOOK AND I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE IT A LOT. ARE YOU READY FOR SOME QUESTIONS?>>Guest: WELL, I AM. I’LL ANSWER WHAT I CAN.>>Fr. Pacwa: ALL RIGHT. LET’S SEE WHAT WE GOT. WE HAVE A CALLER, FATHER THOMAS, WHERE ARE YOU CALLING FROM?>>GOOD AFTERNOON, I’M FATHER THOMAS CALLING YOU FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. WHERE I AM FREQUENTLY ON EWTN RADIO HERE IN D.C. AND MORNING GLORY. SO, IT’S GREAT TO BE HERE WITH THE FAMILY. AND I’M SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE HERE WITH SISTER BRIEGE. IT’S WONDERFUL. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR SISTER BRIEGE. SISTER, IT’S SO WONDERFUL TO SPEAK TO YOU. AND I’M JUST WONDERING, AS PRIESTS WE OFTEN MINISTER TO PEOPLE AND HAVE PEOPLE THAT WE’RE VERY CLOSE TO, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG WHO SUFFER, AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO HAVE TO CARE FOR THEM AND ARE SUFFERING WITH THEM. AS THEY WAIT FOR THAT MIRACLE, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT PERHAPS ABOUT THE GRACES OF SUFFERING, EVEN WHEN THEY ARE VERY YOUNG OVER MANY YEARS AND WHAT THAT IS LIKE.>>Fr. Pacwa: THANK YOU, FATHER THOMAS.>>Guest: WELL, ONE OF THE GREAT TEACHINGS, FATHER THOMAS, I GOT MYSELF WAS SUFFERING IN MY OWN LIFE. BUT ALSO, I HAD A BROTHER THAT I PRAYED FOR, FOR NINE YEARS WHO WAS JUST OLDER THAN ME. HE SUFFERED INTENSELY WITH CANCER. EVERYBODY WAS PRAYING. AND I SAID TO HIM ONE DAY, TOWARD THE END OF THE NINE YEARS, YOU ARE ALWAYS JOYFUL. YOU KNOW, HOW DID YOU PERSEVERE AND HIS ANSWER WAS, HE WAS A LITTLE COUNTRY FARMER NOW, YOU KNOW. BUT HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I WAS ABLE TEEN DO YOU REMEMBER THE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF THE ANOINTING OF THE SICK. BECAUSE FATHER KEVIN AND HIS PARISH PRIEST WOULD COME WITH THE EUCHARIST. AND HE HAD A WONDERFUL DEVOTION TO ST. FAUSTINA WHICH REALLY SURPRISED ME. AND TO ME, SUFFERING, FATHER THOMAS, I TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, YOU CANNOT AVOID THE CROSS. AND THE CROSS DOESN’T BECOME INVISIBLE WITH PHYSICAL SUFFERING. IT COMES IN ALL KINDS OF SUFFERING. IT COMES IN SUFFERING THROUGH PEOPLE AT WORK, INTERPERSONAL RELATIONS. BUT IT’S, THE MORE YOU PRAY, THE MORE I TELL PEOPLE. WHEN YOU PERSEVERE, SAY IT’S A PHYSICAL HEALING, CANCER, KEEP BEGGING JESUS AND WHAT JESUS DOES IS, HIS PERFECT WILL WILL COME AND YOU GET THE GRACE TO BE OPEN TO IT. AND WHAT WOULD BE MAKE YOU VERY BITTER, COULD MAKE YOU BITTER BECOMES A GRACE. AND AS SOMEBODY SAID, IT’S LIKE A DIAMOND FOR YOUR JOURNEY TOWARD HEAVEN. AND I THINK, IF I MAY TELL YOU OF AN INCIDENT THAT I HAD WITH TWO SISTERS, TWO NUNS, THAT I WENT INTO A REST HOME, THE RETIREMENT SISTERS. THE FIRST SISTER I WENT INTO, SHE WAS NOT THAT OLD BUT VERY BAD WITH ARTHRITIS. AND THE SISTER IN HER 80’S SAID, SISTER BRIEGE IS GOING TO PRAY FOR YOU. AND SHE SAID, I DON’T WANT TO BE HEALED. AND I SAID, SISTER, I’LL SAY A PRAYER FOR YOU. AND SHE SAID, NO, I DON’T WANT TO BE HEALED. AND VERY STANDOFFISH. AND I SAID, ALREADY. I’LL SAY A PRAYER. AND SHE SAID, I’M A VICTIM SACRIFICE FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEN I CAME OUTSIDE, THE LITTLE SISTER SAID, GUESS WHO THE VICTIM SACRIFICE IS? THE COMMUNITY. [LAUGHTER] SO, WHAT HAPPENED WHEN SHE WAS YOUNG AND SHE GOT THIS TERRIBLE CRIPPLING ARTHRITIS, I HATE TO SAY IT BUT SOME PRIEST SAID TO HER, YOU HAVE TO OFFER IT UP. YOU CAN’T BE ASKING JESUS. YOU HAVE TO BE A VICTIM FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AND SHE WAS MAD. WOULDN’T YOU BE? SHE SPENT HER WHOLE LIFE. SO, I LEAVE HER AND I GO TO AN 86-YEARS-OLD. AND SHE’S IN BED FOR 37 YEARS. AND SHE’S JUST TOTALLY CRIPPLED. AND THE LITTLE SISTER SAID TO HER, SISTER BRIEGE IS GOING TO PRAY WITH YOU AND FOR YOUR SUFFERING, YOUR SICKNESS AND EVERYTHING. AND SHE TOLD HER, YOU HAVE ARTHRITIS. AND SHE HAD IT AND SHE WAS HEALED. AND THE NUN LOOKED AT ME, AND SHE SAID, YOU LOST IT AND I FOUND IT 36 YEARS AGO! SISTER BRIEGE, DON’T PRAY FOR ME TO BE HEALED. JUST PRAY IN THANKSGIVING THAT I WILL BE ABLE ALL THESE YEARS TO OFFER MY SUFFERING TO JESUS. PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO MADE MY LIFE VERY HAPPY BECAUSE THE READ TO ME AND THEY TAKE CARE OF ME. AND AS I WAS WALKING OUT THERE, I SAID, SUFFERING CAN DO ONE OR TWO THINGS. IT CAN MAKE YOU VERY BITTER OR IT CAN MAKE YOU A SAINT. IT’S NOT THE SUFFERING. IT’S HOW YOU GET THE GRACE TO ACCEPT GOD’S WILL. AND THAT’S WHY, WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WELL, MAYBE IT’S NOT GOD’S WILL THAT I SHOULD BE HEALED. AND I SAY, HOW DO YOU KNOW? LET GOD MAKE UP HIS MIND. YOU JUST PRAY!>>Fr. Pacwa: THAT’S WHAT MY BIBLE SAYS, THY WILL BE DONE.>>Guest: EXACTLY.>>Fr. Pacwa: AND WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE STUDIO AUDIENCE. MA’AM, WHERE ARE YOU FROM?>>Voice: HUNTSVILLE.>>Fr. Pacwa: GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. ARE YOU A ROCKET SCIENTIST?>>Voice: NO.>>Fr. Pacwa: WELL, THERE’S A LOT OF THEM UP THERE. SO, WHAT’S YOUR QUESTION?>>Voice: I HAVE A DAUGHTER WITH AN AUTO IMMUNE DISEASE. WE HAVE ACCEPTED THAT. WE’VE NEVER QUESTIONED WHY. BUT MY QUESTION TO YOU IS THE ROLE OF INTERCESSORY PRAYER. AS HER PARENT, AND BY THE WAY, THAT CALL WAS FROM HER GODFATHER, FATHER THOMAS.>>Guest: FATHER MITCH, AND I WOULD SAY — WHAT’S YOUR NAME?>>Voice: MYRA.>>Guest: WELL, NEVER GIVE UP, MYRA. AND YOU MIGHT THINK, BUT YOU NEVER GIVE UP. I’VE MET PEOPLE AND LOOKED BACK AND SAY, OH, MY GOSH, I GOT SO MANY WONDERFUL HEALINGS. WHETHER IT WAS THROUGH THE DOCTORS OR WHATEVER, BUT I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES, THE DOCTOR, THE MEDICINE, THE HEALINGS. AND THEY ALL WORK AND THEY ARE THERE FOR THE GLORY OF GOD. AND YOU BRING DOCTORS, SCIENTISTS AND SCIENCE TO BRING ABOUT HEALING. I HAD THIS IN MY OWN LIFE. I PRAYED FOR 10 YEARS. WHEN I HAD A VERY BAD TWITCH. I DON’T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT. I PRAYED FOR 10 YEARS. YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH THE CLERGY SO, TO BE WINKING WAS NOT THE BEST THING. AND I COULDN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WAS ON MY FACE. AND PEOPLE PRAYED OVER ME AND I WOULD THANK YOU JESUS, I’M HEALED. CLAIM YOUR HEALING. AND TWO MONTHS LATER, IT WAS BACK, WORSE. AND AT A POINT, I WENT IN THERE, JESUS IS A PERSON AND HE’S AS ST. FAUSTINA WAS TOLD, HE’S NOT AN OBJECT, HE’S THERE. AND I SAID, JESUS, I’M FED UP, 10 YEARS I’VE BEEN ASKING YOU. NOW, THERE’S THREE THINGS THAT I’M GOING TO ASK YOU. AND THIS IS OUT LOUD. I SAID, YOU CAN DO A MIRACLE FOR ME, YOU DID ONE BEFORE. YOU CAN GIVE ME A DOCTOR, OR YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, IF IT’S NOT YOUR WILL, THEN GIVE ME THE GRACE TO OFFER THIS UP BECAUSE IT’S REALLY HARD ON YOUR FACE. AND FROM THE SACRED HOST, I HEARD CLEARLY, GO SEE A NEUROLOGIST. AND I WENT OUT. I FOUND A NEUROLOGIST. AND IT’S A LONG STORY AND THE NEUROLOGIST LOOKED AT ME. AND SHE SAID, I THINK I KNOW WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOU. AND I THOUGHT, OH, CAN YOU FIX ME. AND SHE SAID, WELL, WE’LL TAKE TESTS. AND SHE CAME BACK TO ME AND SHE SAID, ARE YOU A DOCTOR, DO HAVE YOU A MEDICAL BACKGROUND. AND I SAID, NO. AND SHE SAID, COME ON, WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOU SOMEBODY IN MEDICINE KNOWS. AND WHO TOLD YOU WHO TO COME TO ME? AND IT’S NOT ALWAYS THAT YOU SAY, OKAY. WELL, I LOOKED AT HER AND I SAID, JESUS TOLD ME TO COME TO YOU. AND SHE JUMPED UP AND RUNNING AROUND THE CLINIC AND SHE SAID, DOES JESUS KNOW ME? AND I SAID, I HOPE HE DOES. SHE SAID, YOU CAN HAVE ONE OF TWO CURES. YOU CAN HAVE BOTOX. OR YOU CAN HAVE BRAIN SURGERY. AND I SAID, I’LL HAVE THE BRAIN SURGERY. AND JACKIE AND FATHER KEVIN I WALKED OUT AND I SAID, I’M GOING TO HAVE BRAIN SURGERY. AND THEY SAID, ARE YOU MAD? AND I HAD BRAIN SURGERY IN SHANDS HOSPITAL IN FLORIDA. VERY FEW PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT IT. AND THEY CUT INTO MY BRAIN, A HOLE IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD, WENT INTO MY BRAIN AND SLIT, IT WAS A BLOOD VESSEL AND NERVE HAD FUSED OVER 10 YEARS AND THE NERVE WAS PULSATING. AND I CAME OUT. AND I WAS TELLING SOMEBODY, WHEN I GOT OUT OF THE RECOVERY ROOM. I’M LYING THERE, AND I LOOKED UP AT THE CEILING AND JUST LIKE THAT, WRITTEN ON THE CEILING WAS, MIRACLES DO HAPPEN, JUST BELIEVE. AND THIS WAS IN A BIG PUBLIC HOSPITAL. I WAS HOME THREE DAYS LATER AND BACK TO WORK WITHIN THE MONTH. AND MY PERSEVERANCE FOR 10 YEARS. AND THE DOCTOR GIVES ME, THE DOCTOR, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CHEAPER TO HAVE A MIRACLE. BUT I WAS HEALED. [LAUGHTER]>>Fr. Pacwa: THIS IS WHY WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON’T TRY TO MAKE OUR LORD IN CHARGE OF MEDICARE AND ALL THAT. RIGHT? [LAUGHTER] AS BOTH OF US KNOW!>>Guest: YEAH.>>Fr. Pacwa: AND DAVID IS ON THE LINE. DAVID, WHERE ARE YOU CALLING FROM?>>Voice: IT’S CALIFORNIA. AND CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?>>Fr. Pacwa: TURN OFF YOUR TELEVISION.>>Voice: YEAH, I’M HAVING A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH THE MOBILE HOME PHONE. OKAY.>>Fr. Pacwa: YOU GOT TO TURN YOUR TV OFF. WE’VE LOST THE CALL. WE’LL SEE IF WE CAN GET HIM BACK LATER ON. OKAY. THERE’S ANOTHER QUESTION HERE IN THE STUDIO. YEAH, WE LOST THE CALL. OKAY. SIR, WHERE ARE YOU FROM?>>Voice: I’M FROM HUNTSVILLE.>>Fr. Pacwa: ARE YOU A ROCKET SCIENTIST?>>Voice: NO, NO, I’M NOT A ROCKET SCIENTIST.>>Fr. Pacwa: WELL, YOU NEVER KNOW. WHAT’S YOUR QUESTION?>>Voice: SISTER, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, SHOULD YOU BE PERSISTENT IN PRAYER WITH SOMETHING OR SOMEONE, TO JESUS OR SHOULD YOU JUST ASK ONE TIME AND THEN LEAVE IT BE.>>Fr. Pacwa: NAME IT, CLAIM IT, AND THEN GO ON?>>Guest: WELL, I DON’T. I KEEP ASKING AND I PRAY A LOT OF NOVENAS AND WHEN I GO TO ADORATION. I MEAN, IT’S NOT JUST A PHYSICAL THING. THERE’S MANY THINGS LIKE, NEEDS THAT WE MAY HAVE, THAT YOU DON’T JUST ASK ONCE. YOU KEEP ASKING THE LORD. AND I’M THANKING HIM AT THE SAME TIME. YOU KNOW, THERE’S THIS GREAT NOVENA TO OUR LADY AND SEE ALL THESE ROSES AND SAYING 25, 27 IN PETITION AND RIGHT AWAY, IN 27 IN THANKSGIVING EVEN IF YOU DON’T GET IT. SO, I THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO NEVER BE AFRAID TO KEEP PLEADING WITH THE LORD. DON’T GIVE UP. KEEP KNOCKING. AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, GOD OFTEN USES INTERCESSORY PRAYER TO CHANGE PEOPLE. BECAUSE YOU NOTICE THAT WHEN PEOPLE, SOMEBODY GETS VERY ILL OR VERY SICK. AND PEOPLE ARE SO DESPERATE AND THEY RETURN TO PRAYER. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, THE PEOPLE CHANGE THROUGH PRAYING BECAUSE GOD USES MANY WAYS TO BRING PEOPLE BACK TO HIM. AND I SEE IT ALL THE TIME. I THINK OF A MAN WHO CAME TO ME. AND HE WAS LIVING NOT A VERY GOOD LIFE. AND HE HAD A VERY BAD LEG. SO, I SAID TO HIM, YOU KNOW, HE WAS PRAYING AND PRAYING FOR THE LEG. AND HE SAID, COULDN’T GET ANYTHING DONE WITH IT. AND SAID, WELL, I PRAYED FOR YOUR SOUL AND YOUR LEG. AND HE SAID, DON’T WORRY ABOUT MY SOUL, IT’S MY LEG. AND I SAID, DON’T WORRY ABOUT THE LEG, YOU WILL GET A NEW ONE. THE SOUL, YOU NEED PRAYER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE ASKED ME TO PRAY FOR THAT HE COULD HAVE A FEW BEERS. HERE I’M PRAYING FOR ALCOHOLICS TO STOP. AND HE SAID HE WANTED TO HAVE A BEER TO MOW HIS LAWN. AND HE WENT HOME AND IT WAS KIND OF A SET UP. BECAUSE HE WAS SAYING TO THE WIFE, I DON’T REALLY BELIEVE IN THIS. AND THEN HE HAD A BIG EXPERIENCE WITH THE LORD AFTER THAT. AND HE GOT MORE THAN HE BARGAINED FOR. BECAUSE GOD REALLY TOUCHED HIM. SO, SOMETIMES –>>Fr. Pacwa: WHAT? WITH A BIG WAGON WITH THE HORSES THAT HAVE THE BEER? I KNOW YOU LIVE NEAR THERE.>>Guest: NO, I THINK THE INTERCESSORY PRAYER, THAT’S WHY FATHER KEVIN FOUND THAT HAD FOR PRIESTS. WE’RE PRAYING FOR 42 YEARS. AND WHEN FATHER KEVIN FOUNDED THE PROGRAM, ALL KINDS OF THINGS BEGAN TO HAPPEN. PRIESTS LEAVING. AND HE SAID, ONE THING WE CAN DO IS PRAY, AND INTERCEDE. AND HE THOUGHT AT THAT TIME THAT IT WOULD LAST A COUPLE OF YEARS. 42 YEARS LATER, THE INTERCESSION IS NOW BEEN AROUND THE WORLD. AND WE’VE BEEN IN A HUNDRED SOMETHING COUNTRIES. AND WE’RE STILL PRAYING FOR PRIESTS AND STILL INTERCEDING FOR THEIR HOLINESS AND TO HELP THEM. SO, YOU NEVER GIVE UP!>>Fr. Pacwa: NO. AND THERE’S A PASSAGE ALSO IN THE GOSPEL OF ST. LUKE WHERE THE UNJUST JUDGE DIDN’T CARE ABOUT THE MERITS OF THE CASE. BUT THE WIDOW KEPT COMING BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN. AND HE SAID, I DON’T CARE ABOUT GOD OR HUMAN BEINGS. BUT THIS WOMAN IS DRIVING ME CRAZY SO I’M GOING TO GIVE HER WHAT SHE WANTS. AND THEN THAT WAS USED AS A MODEL FOR PERSISTENT PRAYER. YOU KEEP ON COMING BACK. LIKE, OUR LORD, IT’S NOT JUST GETTING THE ANSWER. THE PROCESS IS ALSO ONE, AND YOU GET TO KNOW CHRIST AND HE GETS TO KNOW YOU.>>Guest: WELL, IT’S LIKE A MOTHER. JACKIE, OUR SECRETARY, THEY HAVE 8 CHILDREN THAT GREW UP WITH ME. AND I OFTEN HEAR THEM. THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL AND WATCHING TONIGHT PROBABLY. BUT CHILDREN CAN KEEP AFTER THEIR MOTHER AND FATHER.>>Fr. Pacwa: OH, YEAH.>>Guest: THEY DON’T GIVE UP WHEN THEY WANT SOMETHING OR THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING OR THEY WANT TO GO SOMEPLACE. WE COULD LEARN THE SAME EXAMPLE FROM OUR FATHER. KEEP ASKING.>>Fr. Pacwa: AND YOU DON’T ALWAYS GET WITH WHAT YOU WANT. I ALWAYS ASKED FOR A PONY.>>Guest: DID YOU GET IT?>>Fr. Pacwa: NO, WE LIVED IN A HOUSE TRAILER. THERE WAS NO ROOM FOR US, LET ALONE, A HORSE. BUT NO, YOU LEARN OTHER THINGS TOO. AND THE NEEDS OF THE FAMILY AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS HAPPEN. AND IT’S AN IMPORTANT THING. SO, LET’S ALSO GO TO ANOTHER CALLER. WE HAVE KATHY ON THE PHONE. WHERE ARE YOU CALLING FROM?>>Voice: OMAHA, NEBRASKA.>>Fr. Pacwa: WHAT’S YOUR QUESTION?>>Voice: I HAVE A THANK YOU FOR SISTER. 35 YEARS AGO, FATHER, MY HUSBAND WAS ONLY 47 AND DYING OF HEART TROUBLE BECAUSE HE HAD HEART TROUBLE FOR YEARS. VERY ANGRY, WOULDN’T TALK ABOUT GOD, DIDN’T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM. HE WAS VERY ANGRY. AND MY FRIEND CALLED AND WANTED TO KNOW IF I WANTED TO COME HEAR THIS PRIEST AND NUN TALK. WHICH WAS SISTER THERE, AND FATHER KEVIN. SO, I DID. AND I CAME BACK. AND THAT NIGHT FIRST TIME, I TOLD HIM, CAROL, YOU NEED TO PREPARE YOURSELF. AND THAT NIGHT WHEN I CAME HOME. HE ASKED ME, HOW SHOULD HE PREPARE HIMSELF. AND FIRST TIME HE EVER EVEN INDICATED HE WAS INTERESTED. SO, WHAT I SAID TO HIM WAS ALMOST WORD FOR WORD FROM CAME OUT OF FATHER AND SISTER’S MOUTH CAME OUT OF MINE TO MY HUSBAND. NEXT MORNING, HE ENDED UP BACK IN THE HOSPITAL. AND HE ASKED TO GO TO CONFESSION AND ASKED THE PRIEST TO CONFIRM HIM. AND HE DIED 2 AND A HALF WEEKS LATER.>>Guest: BEAUTIFUL. BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.>>Fr. Pacwa: THANK YOU, KATHY THAT’S A POWERFUL STORY. PART OF IT TOO, THE ULTIMATE HEALING IS WHEN WE’RE STANDING BEFORE JESUS, AFTER WE DIE. WHETHER WE GET TO HEAVEN OR NOT, THAT IS THE ULTIMATE HEALING.>>Guest: AND FATHER MITCH, THAT’S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAY TO THE PRIEST. IN THE PRESENT AGE AND TIMES, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. I SAY WHEN I SPEAK, FATHER, THE SALVATION OF SOULS, THE BODY AND ALL OF THESE THINGS WILL PASS. BUT OUR SOUL IS ETERNAL. AND YOU HAVE BEEN ENTRUSTED WITH THE MOST POWERFUL GIFT THROUGH YOUR ORDINATION. AND WHILE THERE’S OTHER THINGS, YES, THAT WE MAY BE INVOLVED N- BUT NOTHING COMPARES TO WHAT, WHEN A PERSON COMES TO YOU IN CONFESSION AND AT THAT MOMENT, WHEN YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND IN THE NAME OF THE CHURCH AND WITH GOD’S POWER. AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE SACRAMENTS THAT YOU GIVE, YOU KNOW, NEVER UNDRESS THIS. BECAUSE THE SOUL — I ALWAYS TELL THEM. I SAY, WHEN YOU GET TO HEAVEN, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP AND SAY, THANK YOU FOR BEING A PRIEST. THANK YOU, I GOT TO HEAVEN BECAUSE YOU SPOKE TO ME BECAUSE YOU PREACH THE GOSPEL. BECAUSE YOU ABSOLVED ME FROM MY SINS. AND PEOPLE SAY TO ME, ON TELEVISION, A FEW TIMES, I GO ON SECULAR TV. WOULDN’T YOU LIKE TO BE A PRIEST? THAT’S THE TOPIC. AND I ALWAYS LOOK AT THEM. AND I THINK, OH, MY. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO A PRIESTHOOD. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT. IT’S GOD’S GIFT. WHEN YOU THINK, AS YOU STAND BEFORE THE LORD, WHO COULD STAND BEFORE GOD AND SAY, WE HAVE RIGHTS. THE ONLY THING WE OWN IS OUR SIN. THE ONLY THING. EVERYTHING ELSE IS A GIFT. AND THAT’S WHY I SAY TO PRIESTS, YOU HAVE THE MOST WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL GIFT. DON’T EVER UNDERESTIMATE IT OR COMPROMISE IT FOR ANYTHING. YOU ARE NOT SOCIAL WORKERS AND YOU DON’T WORK FOR A COMPANY. YOU ARE WORKING FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD.>>Fr. Pacwa: YEAH, THERE WAS A MOVE BACK IN SEMINARY, IN THE LATE 1960’S, EARLY 1970’S, OF TRYING TO PORTRAY AS PROFESSIONALS. AND THAT THIS IS A PROFESSION, YOU HAVE TO ACT LIKE A PROFESSIONAL. THAT’S NOT WHAT IT IS. IT’S NOT A RELATIONSHIP.>>Guest: AFTER TRAVELING TO SOUTH AMERICA IN THE 1970’S, WE WENT ALL THROUGH SOUTH AMERICA, AND GOD BLESS THE CHARISMATIC RENEWAL BECAUSE IT WAS A GREAT GRACE IN THE 1970’S, IN THOSE DAYS. AND I WOULD SAY, LOOK, LOOK, WE DON’T NEED SOCIAL WORK. WE HAVE PLENTY OF SOCIAL WORKERS, THEY ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. AND PEOPLE WILL TAKE CARE RIGHT NOW IN THE WORLD. WE HAVE PEOPLE WORKING AND WE ALL HAVE TO BE AWARE OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND GLOBAL WARMING, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT BUT YOU AS A PRIEST, PREACHING THE GOSPEL, YOUR FIRST MISSION IS TO PROCLAIM THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. PROCLAIM JESUS CHRIST. AND WHEN WE CHANGE, WE’LL TAKE CARE OF THE EARTH. AND WHEN WE GIVE JESUS THE FIRST PLACE, IT’S ALL HIS ANY WAY. AND I THINK THAT TRYING TO SAY, WE’RE ALL THE SAME. WE’RE ALL THE SAME, WE’RE SINNERS, PRIESTS BISHOPS, POPE, EVERYBODY. BUT WE’RE NOT ALL THE SAME WHEN IT COMES TO, I CAN’T DO WHAT YOU CAN DO. AND VICE VERSA.>>Fr. Pacwa: VICE VERSA.>>Guest: AND THINK THAT’S THE GREAT THING. THEY USED TO SAY IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE CHARISMATIC RENEWAL, BLOOM WHERE YOU ARE PLANTED.>>Fr. Pacwa: OKAY. LET’S TAKE ONE MORE PHONE CALL. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES. DONNA? HI, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOU.>>Voice: WE WANTED TO THANK SISTER BRIEGE. WE WERE TRYING TO GET PREGNANT, MY HUSBAND AND I. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO HAVE CHILDREN. AND HER AND FATHER KEVIN PRAYED FOR US. AND WE HAVE TWO CHILDREN ADOPTED FROM CHINA. AND KEVIN MCMASTER, AND WE NAMED OUR SON KEVIN MCMASTER AFTER FATHER KEVIN. AND WE WANTED TO THANK SISTER FOR PRAYING FOR US. AND THIS IS KEVIN.>>Voice: HI!>>Fr. Pacwa: [LAUGHTER] HELLO, KEVIN.>>Voice: ISN’T THAT BEAUTIFUL.>>Fr. Pacwa: CONGRATULATIONS.>>Voice: FATHER KEVIN HAS A WONDERFUL MINISTRY. HE’S KNOWN ALL OVER THE WORLD. I WAS IN THE HOLYLAND THIS YEAR, IN CANA, MINISTERING AND A YOUNG WOMAN WHO LIVES IN NAZARETH CAME UP WITH ME. SHE WANTED ME TO ASK FATHER KEVIN TO PRAY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A BABY. AND SHE SAID, WE HEARD THAT WHEN HE PRAISE WITH PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD, THEY GET PREGNANT. AND SHE SAID, SOMEBODY SAID, YEAH, HE’S REALLY THE FERTILITY PRIEST! [LAUGHTER] HE HAS A NAME.>>Fr. Pacwa: DON’T LET PLANNED PARENTHOOD KNOW THAT. ALSO, WE WANT TO MENTION SISTER BRIDGE MCKENNA BOOKS, MIRACLES DO HAPPEN. AND YOU CAN GO TO ewtnRC.com. AND YOU CAN CALL, 1-800-854-6316. YOU CAN GO THERE AND CALL THEM UP, LEARN ABOUT HOW MIRACLES HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFE TOO. TURN TO JESUS! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. AND WE LOVED HAVING YOU.>>Guest: IT’S REALLY A BLESSING. I ASK YOU TO PRAY FOR FATHER KEVIN AND MYSELF. AND WE’LL PRAY FOR YOU, FATHER MITCH.>>Fr. Pacwa: YES, MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU, KEEP YOU, MAY HE CAUSE HIS FACE TO SHINE UPON YOU, BRING YOU PEACE AND ALL OF HIS HEALING. IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.>>Guest: AMEN.>>Fr. Pacwa: AND WE CAN BRING SISTER BRIEGE AND ALL OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS WITH THE GUESTS HERE ONLY BECAUSE MOTHER FELT INSPIRED BY OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST TO HAVE THIS NETWORK BROUGHT TO YOU BY YOU. SHE WANTED US TO HAVE IT SO THAT YOU WOULD DO IT AND NOT ADVERTISERS THERE. SO, KEEP US IN BETWEEN YOUR GAS BILL, ELECTRIC BILL AND CABLE BILL AND WE’LL PAY ALL OF OUR BILLS TOO. GOD BLESS YOU AND THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] ♪

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